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Is ABS the saviour safety experts suggest?
HunterTodd:
I once read a report done by some boffin in the States (take that with a grain of salt could be fake news!) but the gist was it was done i think in California when they were considering introducing complusory abs for motorcycles.
They conducted a test in which several "expert" riders rode a bike which was available in abs and non abs versions.
They attempted to brake in the shortest possible distance from a given speed. The results were that after an average of three attempts the expert riders could outbrake the abs equipped bikes on the non abs equipped bikes. The conclusion was that abs brakes were better for all but expert riders in controlled conditions.
As one of the riders succinctly put it.
How often does the average rider out on the road get three attempts to brake to avoid a crash.
Cheers
Biggles:
--- Quote from: HunterTodd on March 04, 2020, 01:26:29 PM ---They conducted a test in which several "expert" riders rode a bike which was available in abs and non abs versions.
They attempted to brake in the shortest possible distance from a given speed. The results were that after an average of three attempts the expert riders could outbrake the abs equipped bikes on the non abs equipped bikes. The conclusion was that abs brakes were better for all but expert riders in controlled conditions.
As one of the riders succinctly put it.
How often does the average rider out on the road get three attempts to brake to avoid a crash.
Cheers
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I'll drink to that. As I mentioned in a previous thread on this subject, I participated in a Braking And Cornering training day a couple of years ago.
When challenged to stop from 80 kph in a designated box, the ST1300 with ABS always delivered the goods while every other bike, mostly lighter sports bikes without ABS, either locked up the rear and skidded through, or didn't lock up and still stopped well beyond the box.
Williamson:
--- Quote from: Biggles on March 04, 2020, 01:46:03 PM ---I'll drink to that......
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Agree here, 'specially if a beer is invloved.
--- Quote from: Biggles on March 04, 2020, 01:46:03 PM ---..... When challenged to stop from 80 kph in a designated box, the ST1300 with ABS always delivered the goods while every other bike, mostly lighter sports bikes without ABS, either locked up the rear and skidded through, or didn't lock up and still stopped well beyond the box.
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Hi-Jack .........
When conducting the motorcycle rider training and testing back in the 80's & 90's, one of the training and test exercises was stopping with the front wheel in the box from 20 to 25 km/h. Some of the younger VIC members on the Forum may remember this, perhaps some from other States as well.
Anyway, many learners could not achieve even this low level skill, and consequently did not pass the L's test, and thus did not venture onto the public road network, at least legally, or until they passed their test.
End Hi-Jack .........
ruSTynutz:
I guess my only real beef with ABS is, and this applies to both motorcycle and car learners...
They basically learn that you can stomp on the brake pedal or apply the brakes as hard as you like and you're not gonna lock up the wheels...
They then go out and buy an older vehicle without ABS and the first time they are in an emergency situation they do what they've been taught and bam! down they go... >:()
HunterTodd:
Hear what you are saying. It is always in the back of my mind when i ride my non abs cb1100 but i doubt i would remember it in an emergency.
Having said that i can definitely say the ST1300 abs has saved my sorry backside at least twice in 65000 odd km when my riding ambition exceeded my riding capabilities by a significant margin. So i am for it.
Cheers.
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