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Title: Top Box lid stay
Post by: ST2UP on August 05, 2013, 09:14:19 AM
Here is my TEMPORARY solution for not overextending the lid on the Top Box when opened and placing undue stress upon the hinge.....did this as a temporary measure 6 months ago until I can find a very small gas strut at the correct length to suit my mounting options and pressure. Well the temporary measure is still in place and working fine.

The lid bolt is apart of the mount for the passenger arm rests

The rest is a very hi-tech bootlace and a couple of crimp terminals.....have them both sides.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q717/ST2UP/4fce883e642814018a67822c82aa16d6_zps68dae555.jpg)
Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: Tipsy on August 05, 2013, 09:17:21 AM
 :wht11 py
I used fishing line steel trace as that already has a loop in each end.

Tipsy

Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: ST2UP on August 05, 2013, 09:24:12 AM
Making them from insulated fishing trace wire was my first thought.....BUT I lent my swage tool and swages to a mate to make traces and well.......he lost the swages  :||||


So plan "B" was formulated  :grin
 
Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: Tipsy on August 05, 2013, 09:30:22 AM
 :wht11 py
swages and swage tool not needed as they are already done and you can get them in different lengths, just cut swivels of with side cutters.  :grin :grin
for next time when boot laces rot off, :whistle

Tipsy
Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: IanB on August 19, 2013, 09:13:47 AM
Er/? there is already a screw location hole in the top box - just to the right of the new one in the diagram.
Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: ST2UP on August 19, 2013, 09:23:13 AM
Very true there is.......but i was just using the stronger mounting bolt from the passenger arm rests that you cannot see in the pic.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: Natman on August 19, 2013, 08:24:09 PM
Anyone used a small strut to do this job?  I'm now in need of the same fix
Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: Biggles on August 19, 2013, 08:30:58 PM
Anyone used a small strut to do this job?  I'm now in need of the same fix

I think that in the limited space available, a strut would be a possible waste of space/ hindrance.
For instance, I sometimes fill my topbox with small packages from Bunnings as part of my job, and the flexible cord has been known to be pushed out of the box, creating a jamb hindrance.  A rigid metal rod/ strut would be even more likely to foul on the contents.  Often simpler is better.
Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: ST2UP on August 19, 2013, 09:00:35 PM
Anyone used a small strut to do this job?  I'm now in need of the same fix

I think that in the limited space available, a strut would be a possible waste of space/ hindrance.
For instance, I sometimes fill my topbox with small packages from Bunnings as part of my job, and the flexible cord has been known to be pushed out of the box, creating a jamb hindrance.  A rigid metal rod/ strut would be even more likely to foul on the contents.  Often simpler is better.

That very issue Bill is the reason I have been holding off.....found some struts on evil bay (thanks Abe) but just did want to commit and find it was a pointless exercise, the agricultural method is working so far so good.

 :beer
Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: Sabie on August 20, 2013, 12:20:11 AM
I just wonder if the plastic is strong enough to sustain the forces a strut would place over time.




 :thumb  ST2UP great idea, I'm going to do the same  :thumb
Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: ST2UP on August 20, 2013, 05:57:04 AM
Sabie to make this little farkling task a truly rewarding experience you will need the following pieces of equipment; a vice, a blow torch, an 9" angle grinder, a 8lb mallet, 1 stick of dynamite, a bottle of Canadian club and one pair of boots from your former employer..........and don't forget to keep some shoe lace and get a few yellow terminals........enjoy !!!! :hatwave

 :beer
Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: Sabie on August 20, 2013, 06:23:12 AM
Yep, check, got all that on the list.......... However, the shoelace and yellow terminals are gunna be a bit tricky to get..... I may have to go "black market" for those.  :o
Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: Abe on August 20, 2013, 07:12:58 AM
These are cheap enough for a try:-

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-x-100N-GAS-STRUTS-kitchen-cabinet-/140909029274?pt=AU_Building_Materials&hash=item20ced5279a (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-x-100N-GAS-STRUTS-kitchen-cabinet-/140909029274?pt=AU_Building_Materials&hash=item20ced5279a)

If not use them on your visor??
Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: Biggles on August 20, 2013, 11:53:43 AM
I just wonder if the plastic is strong enough to sustain the forces a strut would place over time.
 :thumb  ST2UP great idea, I'm going to do the same  :thumb

The OEM fabric cable has the advantage of having a little bit of elasticity which means there is reduced shock on the anchorage points when the lid is flipped open.  I've found I needed to wrap thread around the loop to tighten it after it stretched a bit and kept popping off the post.
Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: Dick B "Yewie" on August 21, 2013, 01:28:05 PM
I don't know why you are going to all this trouble. I just let my Topbox lid sit on top of the pillion seat (which it does without straining the hinges). I find the upturned lid is a great boon to place loose objects in whilst packing the top box. It also gives you unrestricted access. I had some home made bootlace type lid straps but chucked them because the full open lid works much better for me.
 
Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: Neale on August 21, 2013, 05:32:04 PM
Ah, the voice of experience.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: Biggles on August 21, 2013, 09:03:40 PM
I don't know why you are going to all this trouble. I just let my Topbox lid sit on top of the pillion seat (which it does without straining the hinges). I find the upturned lid is a great boon to place loose objects in whilst packing the top box. It also gives you unrestricted access. I had some home made bootlace type lid straps but chucked them because the full open lid works much better for me.
 

Well that answers that question.  I was afraid (as no doubt others were) that full deflection would strain the hinges or their mounts.  Sounds like a very sensible idea.

Won't stop me knocking my helmet off the seat when I open the topbox though, I bet.   :eek
Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: ST2UP on August 21, 2013, 09:21:11 PM
I don't know why you are going to all this trouble. I just let my Topbox lid sit on top of the pillion seat (which it does without straining the hinges). I find the upturned lid is a great boon to place loose objects in whilst packing the top box. It also gives you unrestricted access. I had some home made bootlace type lid straps but chucked them because the full open lid works much better for me.
 

Well that answers that question.  I was afraid (as no doubt others were) that full deflection would strain the hinges or their mounts.  Sounds like a very sensible idea.

Won't stop me knocking my helmet off the seat when I open the topbox though, I bet.   :eek

The helmet issue is the main reason I went with the retaining strap to allow it to open just past top dead centre.......after Pockey's new helmet hit the deck about 8 minutes after she bought it  :fp
Title: Re: Top Box lid stay
Post by: ndttech on November 22, 2013, 04:16:42 PM
Gents...here is what I did with mine....just some small chains....

Daughters Ninja 250 in the background....