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tyres are tyres ? please any advice
« on: August 28, 2014, 07:42:05 PM »
hi guys and girls. im looking to replace my tyres on my st1100 ,, at present i have battle axes bt023. :EatCake. but looking for a change, as the bt023 seem to be hard to find.. :wht13 any ideas guys? what other tires would suit the old st1100.  :think1 thanks in advance for your input... ride safe
 

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Re: tyres are tyres ? please any advice
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2014, 08:27:41 PM »
BT 23s have been replaced by the T30

http://www.bridgestonemotorsport.com/championships/other/news/2863/bridgestone_launches_battlax_sport_touring_t30_motorcycle_tyre__and_puts_the_pleasure_back_in_touring

I have the GT (heavy bike) spec tyre on mine and run the 170/60 (from 1300) on the rear and imported from the US. The standard T30 tyre has standard 1100 sizes if you go that way.

The Michelin PR 4 seems to be the tyre to have at the moment and again you'll need the 1300 rear as there's no 1100 size (160/70).

http://motorcycle.michelin.com.au/tyres/michelin-pilot-road-4

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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2014, 08:41:50 PM »
BT 23s have been replaced by the T30

http://www.bridgestonemotorsport.com/championships/other/news/2863/bridgestone_launches_battlax_sport_touring_t30_motorcycle_tyre__and_puts_the_pleasure_back_in_touring

I have the GT (heavy bike) spec tyre on mine and run the 170/60 (from 1300) on the rear and imported from the US. The standard T30 tyre has standard 1100 sizes if you go that way.



The Michelin PR 4 seems to be the tyre to have at the moment and again you'll need the 1300 rear as there's no 1100 size (160/70).

http://motorcycle.michelin.com.au/tyres/michelin-pilot-road-4

Hope that helps

thank you for the reply alan.. i really think the pr3 and 4 s are over priced .. i realize  theirs no  room for cost cutting when it comes to tyres but tyre prices are ridiculous these days :nahnah
 

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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2014, 09:05:36 PM »
The PR3/4 are a bit expensive, but worth it as they last a long time and handle well
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2014, 09:14:19 PM »
Yep.  When the Bridgies do 24,000 plus kays, then you can compare "like with like".
As Brock says, they handle well, and even if the cost per tyre km is a bit higher, they are worth it just to be in the fashion.  No really any extra cost is easily justified by the great wet performance and general handling.
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2014, 09:17:24 PM »
I'm running my first pair of T30's on my '99 ST1100A and I couldn't be happier. So far none of the wear problems that I had with all three pairs of BT023's. Too early to tell how many K's they will achieve, but probably won't be many more than the (roughly)18,000 Km I was getting on the BT023's.

Of course, with the ABS, I have very little choice when it comes to tyres,
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2014, 09:17:58 PM »
 :eek :eek :eek

Biggles has agreed with me twice this year, I am getting frightened...

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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2014, 09:25:53 PM »
:eek :eek :eek

Biggles has agreed with me twice this year, I am getting frightened...

Maybe they've got your medication dosage right?     :p
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2014, 12:09:35 AM »


Of course, with the ABS, I have very little choice when it comes to tyres,

You should be ok with the 1300 rear even with the ABS. The ABS/TCS calibrates every time we start up and the 1300 rear (170/60) is a better option if a standard 1100 tyre isn't available.
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2014, 07:52:52 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2014, 08:02:02 AM »
I have PR4's on my 1100 (1300 sizes) and they are awesome. Should give good mileage too.
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2014, 08:20:01 AM »
I couldnt find any PR4's (no stock anywhere in the country), so went with the PR3's for my 1100.  Very happy with the performance after 2,500km.  Went 1300 sizes and the boy feels far better then the old BT023's.  Paid $400 fitted, was pretty happy with that too...

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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2014, 09:55:01 AM »
I have nothing but praise for the PR3s... 34,000 on the front, 32,000 on the back, and still going - with a new set of PR4s in the garage waiting.

Obviously, riding style and your use of the throttle has the greatest impact.

I didn't have a problem with the original BTs, but the PR3s do handle better (not that I flog it and notice a big difference) and obviously last longer.

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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2014, 12:22:41 PM »
That's really good mileage for any tyre Rob...
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2014, 04:42:46 PM »
I have nothing but praise for the PR3s... 34,000 on the front, 32,000 on the back, and still going - with a new set of PR4s in the garage waiting
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« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2014, 05:03:36 PM »
It mystifies me that some of you blokes get such high milages out of your tires. I generally get about 12k out of a rear, and about 10k out of a front. Most of my riding is on some rather dodgy back roads, but I am light on the throttle and brakes.
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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2014, 05:09:48 PM »
It mystifies me that some of you blokes get such high milages out of your tires. I generally get about 12k out of a rear, and about 10k out of a front. Most of my riding is on some rather dodgy back roads, but I am light on the throttle and brakes.
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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2014, 06:36:07 PM »
I couldnt find any PR4's (no stock anywhere in the country), so went with the PR3's for my 1100.  Very happy with the performance after 2,500km.  Went 1300 sizes and the boy feels far better then the old BT023's.  Paid $400 fitted, was pretty happy with that too...

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wow that cheap.. i got quoted 500 for a set .plus fitting.. but then again im in nsw ,, every thing is more expensive in this state.
where about in Brisbane did you get them fitted..? i may have to go catch up with a few mates and get some new feet up there.  :Stirpot
 

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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2014, 06:39:01 PM »
It mystifies me that some of you blokes get such high milages out of your tires. I generally get about 12k out of a rear, and about 10k out of a front. Most of my riding is on some rather dodgy back roads, but I am light on the throttle and brakes.
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Correct tyre pressure is one critical factor for long life.    Use 42 psi front and rear and check them very regularly.  Even a couple of psi low will carve them up.
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« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2014, 06:41:18 PM »
Brisbane Motorcycles are Honda dealers just north of the city.
Mick's Tyres in Brendale.
Northside Motorcycle Workshop in Brendale.

They all sell and fit PR4s for comparable money. 

I don't know who is on the southside.  You could call Teammoto at Nerang for a price.  They are Honda dealers also.  Further north there are several m/c dealers at Springwood.
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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2014, 06:43:06 PM »
thank you all for your comments, my bike is none ABS ex police bike.. ive been told i have to run 110 on the front.. can i run a 120 up on the pointy end ?  :||||
 

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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2014, 06:45:26 PM »
Brisbane Motorcycles are Honda dealers just north of the city.
Mick's Tyres in Brendale.
Northside Motorcycle Workshop in Brendale.

They all sell and fit PR4s for comparable money. 

I don't know who is on the southside.  You could call Teammoto at Nerang for a price.  They are Honda dealers also.  Further north there are several m/c dealers at Springwood.
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« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2014, 09:13:52 AM »
Jack, my brother swears by (not at) mad mick, just when you go there be prepared for him to take a while chatting, etc.  he'll eventually get the job done. 


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« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2014, 12:24:21 PM »
A bit (not much) closer to home for you is Gold Coast Motorcycle Tyres - 07 5554 6411 - Karen Avenue Mermaid Beach. They have always been good to deal with.
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« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2014, 11:42:34 PM »
Jack, my brother swears by (not at) mad mick, just when you go there be prepared for him to take a while chatting, etc.  he'll eventually get the job done. 

Do you know where Mad Mick is now?  i lost track when he left Goodna.  He certainly had a loyal following.
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