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Honda ST1100 Section => Plastic, Fairings, Panniers and Top Box's 1100 => Topic started by: Leethal on July 22, 2012, 09:51:26 PM

Title: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on July 22, 2012, 09:51:26 PM
This is my newly purchased secondhand 1998 1100. It had fallen on it's side (parked) and scratched a few bits so i decided to paint it before i even start using it.

it looks terrible naked!
a stack of screws, bolts and clips to find places for when it goes back together..
the Givi top box will have the top half painted to match
i'll post more pics as we go (sorry, forgot to take a 'before' pic)
i reckon there are about 30 different plastic parts lying around the shed floor now, going to be a lot of work rubbing them all down!
new exhausts, bar risers and screen going on it too, also a seat mod... i have short legs and a tall body, so i struggle to reach the ground but get a lot of buffeting so, lower seat, higher screen, higher bars, sit up straighter, that is the plan.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: alans1100 on July 23, 2012, 12:17:48 AM
I think you might need a seat similar to this one. There are a few companies to choose seats from.

Mine is a Saddlemen Gel Seat which I bought from the US for about $500 delivered, but that was nearly two years ago. The riders position is lower than standard and due to the seat design I tend to sit a little further back. The pillion seating is higher than standard. But like any seat, after a couple hundred kays they become uncomfortable so we added a goat skin cover which we made up.

The seat on the bike

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4322/35195652163_3c0da7d189_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VC7Vc2)

With Seat cover

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4309/35617579630_6dc040440a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Wgppww)

I can't offer any input about the exhaust sytems as mine are still ok but it's something I will have to look at down the track.

Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Brock on July 23, 2012, 08:31:37 AM
I had the same seat Allan, and didnt like it. It sloped back too much, and that bit just in front of the rise had a 1/4" gap that the bum slid in to. 30 Ks and the arse was in agony. I had the front bit redone by a local motor trimmer, lowered a little , reshaped and recovered. Way better
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Maverick75 on July 23, 2012, 09:27:52 AM
I dunno, I reckon the ST11 looks bloody awesome naked. Like something out of Mad Max 2. I've seen a couple on the 'net that use a 7" round headlight. Looks the part.

Can't wait to see her finished Leethal. Are you going a stock colour or something different? Regarding the variety of clips, screws etc, I use a plastic tackle box to keep the bits in whenever I do any work. I place items in individual compartments depending on location on the bike. If the job goes for more than one day you can close it up and not have to worry about dogs/kids/yourself kicking them across the floor. :)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z348/Maverick7775/Bike/IMG_1261.jpg)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z348/Maverick7775/Bike/IMG_1262.jpg)

Anyhow, can anyone recommend a good painter in the Toowoomba area? I've sold my BMW and am looking at getting one of my pannier lids repainted. I've ordered new mirror covers since they are a bit scuffed up (from previous owner).

Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: alphafang on July 23, 2012, 08:39:10 PM
Don't know if thhis is of any interest but I will throw it it in anyway. You can colour code the grey panels, don't try rub them down just use plenty of high build primer and rub that down. Mines been done a couple of years and I like the overall look.

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/alphafang/DSC01113.jpg)
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: saaz on July 23, 2012, 08:43:04 PM
I have never seen a Goldie in the flesh but hope to soon (HarieG coming to Inverell?..otherwise have to go to  North Queensland).  If I was going to repaint my police model the Goldie would be a serious colour...along with that Goldwing yellow.  And without looking up the answer, the wheels were a different colour as well??
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Biggles on July 23, 2012, 09:53:07 PM
I thought it was only Triumphs and Nortons that marked their territory!
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: alphafang on July 23, 2012, 10:08:49 PM
 :crackup at Biggles,
come on mate it's the UK it's a ruddy rain puddle. :wink1
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on July 23, 2012, 10:37:12 PM
yeh, filling the grey bits and painting sounds good, love the look of the lower section painted on your bike alphafang.
the before pic is the same as yours Allan1100.

i am thinking about modifying the side service covers to show the whole cam covers on the engine because these look cool!
the colour of choice at the moment is GMH Voodoo Blue, the bright blue you see on VE Commodores, maybe the slightly more subtle would be the GMH Impulse blue from the VZ models

dont get me wrong, i'm not trying to stuff up the ST, just want to make it a bit more 'individual', 'cause that is what i am  :), even at 59 years....

found what looks like a good screen from 'screensforbikes.com' (Aus) at $197 for 550mm high with vents and subtle side flares, light grey tint. this will be the one i get.

the seat i have is already a  modified one so i think i'll try a local trimmer to mod it some more, i need to move the bum bump forward plus get it a bit lower.

thanks for the info and input guys
i'll post some more pics of all the bits on the floor soon
cheers
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: alans1100 on July 23, 2012, 10:58:18 PM
I had the same seat Allan, and didnt like it. It sloped back too much, and that bit just in front of the rise had a 1/4" gap that the bum slid in to. 30 Ks and the arse was in agony. I had the front bit redone by a local motor trimmer, lowered a little , reshaped and recovered. Way better

With the standard seat my RH knee would all ways contact the grey fairing filler panel. With my new seat I'm sitting a little further back which makes it better for my knee. The seat cover just adds a little more comfort for both of us.

I still have the original seat and we have an upholsterer in town and I'm sure he could improve it should I need to replace my seat again.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on July 23, 2012, 11:01:59 PM
hmmm, good thought Alan, i have not checked how much clearance i have, i just wanted to sit up straighter to relieve pressure on my wrists and neck (arthritis!). perhaps i better wait until i have the bodywork back on and check it out...
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Biggles on July 24, 2012, 05:27:11 PM
Anything that gets your knees off that grey panel on the 1100s has got to be good.  I went the other route and put firm rubber pads for the knees to rest in.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on August 10, 2012, 06:24:20 PM
Got my new Delcavic mufflers from the states today, the ST1100 Stubby version in oval shaped stainless. They certainly look the goods! Can't tell how they sound yet as i need those seals that go between the pipes and the collector... Honda shop tomorrow. Got the pipes off Ebay ex USA for $375 landed and it only took 10 days!!!!
Also got a set of 30mm high risers off Ebay, will fit those this weekend..
The new screen will be here next week, the one i spoke about above.

Also attached some pics of the bits that were grey and are going to be body colour, plus the pile of other panels to paint... :-)
Lots of fine rubbing down to do yet then it's off to the painter with all the bits.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on August 19, 2012, 11:30:41 AM
Well, the panels have gone to the painter for their new Voodoo Blue top coat. The mufflers are all fitted up and i have to say even if only in the shed, they sound bloody awesome! The 30mm bar risers are on but still a little work to do on the plastic over the bars... The bar end weights have gone off for chroming and new the blue and chrome grips have arrived  :thumbs
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Maverick75 on August 24, 2012, 07:58:26 AM
I don't know if I'm committing a faux pas here but it doesn't seem worthwhile starting a new topic for.

Does anyone know a code for the paint on the camshaft covers of the 1100's? Mine have corrosion creeping under the paint so I'd like to blast and paint them when I do the valves.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on August 24, 2012, 08:27:59 AM
I might be wrong Brett, but i would think it is just clear acrylic over the pollished alloy. Have them bead blasted, re-polished and re-cleared...
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Maverick75 on August 24, 2012, 08:34:51 AM
Nah Leethal, it's definitely a metallic silver. I can get an eye match but paint mobs up here get a bit antsy matching small quantities.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: saaz on August 24, 2012, 09:41:57 AM
I can't recall seeing an official colour for the cam covers. I will see if I have saved any tips about a colour that matches the OEM, otherwise an eye match and paint both the same should be ok.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: saaz on August 24, 2012, 09:56:53 AM
I found one discussion I remembered about probably what not to do (the results dulled over time with exposure to heat)  http://www.my-mc.com/messages/1/131646.html (http://www.my-mc.com/messages/1/131646.html)

If Paul from the UK reads this he may have more comments as he was involved/mentioned (if you hang around long enough this happens!)

I have seen reference to using silver hammerite paint, and using an entirely different colour (eg red or black)  I have also found references to matching the dark panels and wheel paint on the ST11.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on August 24, 2012, 11:16:41 AM
wow, there you go... and dumb ol me thought they were all alloy!!!! That thread on the link above is very informative indead.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: STeveo on August 24, 2012, 12:35:45 PM
I touched mine up with a Falcon colour called 'silver ash' code 57 that was used in early '80s.

 :bl11
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Maverick75 on August 24, 2012, 02:30:16 PM
Cheers STevo, I'll check that out.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on August 24, 2012, 03:09:52 PM
Update on the bar risers... 30mm risers off ebay then the mods to the bar covers etc. I bought a littlle set of funnels and the smallest was used as the key filler. Simply cut the bottom bit off and screwed it in after opening up the hole with file and knife. Then used a small bit of ally to mount the front of the bar covers and a larger bit at the back for mounting as well. Looks OK i reckon!   :thumbsup
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: saaz on August 24, 2012, 04:06:02 PM
Thats not a bad way to tidy up the hole left after installing riders. The risers look to be a touch higher than the standard police risers.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on August 24, 2012, 04:12:57 PM
most risers, including the police ones are 25mm (1") as far as i know, these were 30mm, so yes, a bit higher
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Yorkie on August 29, 2012, 06:49:57 PM
I got my cam covers powder coated, $50 for the pair and can't tell the difference from original
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Yorkie on August 29, 2012, 09:32:52 PM
I think you know what I meant
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on September 03, 2012, 07:14:14 PM
got the panels back from the painter today... very cool  :)
and started fitting already
before you ask, the blue glow is by some LEDs behind the panel, there will be some at the front too  :thumbs
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Shiney on September 03, 2012, 07:22:35 PM
Dude, that looks awesome :thumb
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Brock on September 03, 2012, 07:26:04 PM
Hmmm, not bad I guess :grin :grin
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Malcolm6112 on September 03, 2012, 07:45:03 PM
That's a really nice bright blue.

Looks Great.

 :blu13
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: WendyL on September 03, 2012, 07:52:43 PM
Very nice  :grin
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: alphafang on September 03, 2012, 11:34:14 PM
That's a nice shade of blue.

Can I ask where's the rear part of the front mudguard? You didn't leave it at the shop did you...lol
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: alans1100 on September 03, 2012, 11:38:38 PM
Looks good, guess I'll see it soon if you're still ok for Silverton on the 15th.

Where did you get it done and how much.  Mine does need a touch up.........lol
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on September 03, 2012, 11:43:03 PM
sharp eye there alphafang... its in one of those boxes at the back  :)
alan, i got it done by the head painter at Smithfield Crash as a homey.. cost a grand but he did all the rubbing as well
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Greencan on September 06, 2012, 03:45:14 PM
Arvo All...

Ever wonder just how those cruddy and faded painted bits (be they steel or ABS plastic), get to look that good after refinishing ::)...the following illustrate the many hours fellow Ozstoc Member, Laurie put into refinishing some Triumph components for me.

Some of you may have seen Laurie’s own recently refinished ST1100 at Blackheath...I digress, let the Craftsman speak for himself...

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/greencan0/D2b.jpg)

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/greencan0/D3a.jpg)

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/greencan0/D3d.jpg)

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/greencan0/Day4e.jpg)

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/greencan0/Day4f.jpg)

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/greencan0/Day5d.jpg)

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/greencan0/Day5g.jpg)

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/greencan0/Day6e.jpg)

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/greencan0/Day6h.jpg)

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/greencan0/Day6g.jpg)

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/greencan0/Day6i.jpg)

...In the mean looking forward to seeing the finish product :thumb

Ciao, the can :)

PS, and if anyone is wondering "how's the tank look?"...it's back with Laurie...on account the idiot penning this diatribe did......(to be cont.)











Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on September 06, 2012, 04:21:51 PM
nearly there
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Biggles on September 06, 2012, 05:03:45 PM
Hmm.  Did you realise it's a similar colour to your car?   :)
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: terrydj on September 06, 2012, 09:47:49 PM
Now if I just get some superglue, a bit of Bog, a plastic welder and maybe 9 new plastic bits me thinks I could probably repaint my bike 2 and have it looking reasonable.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on September 06, 2012, 09:52:22 PM
Biggles, gee no, i didn't notice  :rofl
the Ford is a dark purpulish blue and the bike is GM Voodoo blue, when the bike finally gets outside the shed, it will look much lighter..
hmmm, maybe i like blue...
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: STeveo on September 07, 2012, 07:15:22 AM
Now if I just get some superglue, a bit of Bog, a plastic welder and maybe 9 new plastic bits me thinks I could probably repaint my bike 2 and have it looking reasonable.
Mine too!

 :bl11
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Aj1300 on September 07, 2012, 08:00:02 AM
Looking good Leethal, it looks similar colour to the Blackbird I had, loved the colour
Cheers :thumbs :blk13
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on September 14, 2012, 05:35:00 PM
Done!  :thumbs
Finally finished and very happy. Took it for a 1.5 hour ride today, 100k city and country just because i could!

Tall screen: Screens for bikes 550mm with wings, slots and light tint, $215 landed
Modified seat: Willshire Trimmers, Richmond, $250
Lambswool Cover: Airfleece, Holden Hill $200 inc backrest cover
Handlebar risers 30mm: ebay $30
Grips and LED's: ebay, $not much!
Chome bar weights: local chrome plater, $40
Delkevic Mufflers: Delkevic USA, $375 landed
Paintwork: Tony at Smithfield Crash, $1000 inc prep work
Cleaning, preperation, spray filler and rubbing down for the vinyl finish panels that were painted, free
Detailing of vinyl bits, wheels, brakes etc, free

Thanks to the previous owner at Wallaroo who looked after this bike pretty damn good as the second owner. Not much work to bring it back to shiny bits.

Ok, it's not a new bike, but i reckon it's pretty damn good for 14 years old!
Needs a tune up now though as i have made some cold air holes in the filter cover and changed the mufflers... good under 4000 rpm but gets a bit fluffy after that... exhaust sounds awesome!

I'll take a couple more pics when the sun is out to show how the colour lights up
Looking forward to doing some rides, preferably with the SA OZSTOC members  :)
 
Next project: Trailer, stay tuned...
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: STeveo on September 14, 2012, 05:46:41 PM
Looking SWEET! But tell me why you tinted/painted the blinkers black. I like mine as bright as possible so the 'Neddies' in cars can see me.

 :bl11
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on September 14, 2012, 05:58:09 PM
I certainly get where you are coming from. but i don't like the bright orange look... they still show quite bright when blinking, it is only 2 coats of the tint stuff. I reckon it's my job to miss the 'neddies', not their job to miss me  :)
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: STeveo on September 14, 2012, 06:09:02 PM
Fair enough. I have always considered myself invisable on a bike and like to keep plenty of room to move around other vehicles.

 :bl11
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Streak on September 14, 2012, 06:10:16 PM
It looks Bloody Awesome Mate!
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Abe on September 15, 2012, 07:57:15 PM
Looks the ants pants,  maybe rebuilding mine early next year (budget pending) thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Skip on September 15, 2012, 09:40:15 PM
Very, very nice Leethal. I can just see the smile on your face while taking the STead out for a blat. Job well done.
Cheers.
Skip.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: alphafang on September 15, 2012, 10:19:42 PM
That's a nice job all right, good colour for the 1100 too really suits it (Gold would have been better though  :wink1).
Have fun with it mate.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on September 16, 2012, 12:20:29 AM
Thank you all for your kind comments. Yes, there is definately a bloody big smile on my face when i ride now  :grin
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: STRay (Roo Killer) on September 16, 2012, 03:27:53 PM
Now if I just get some superglue, a bit of Bog, a plastic welder and maybe 9 new plastic bits me thinks I could probably repaint my bike 2 and have it looking reasonable.

 :whistle Sounds very familiar, 'specially after my skippy incident!
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Shiney on September 17, 2012, 09:57:02 AM
Mate that looks bloody amazing :thumbs

Just so I can help out the guys that ask about my Delkevic mufflers (as you got them a lot cheaper then I did :fp) where did you get them from?

Cheers
Shiney
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on September 17, 2012, 10:01:24 AM
ebay :-)

Honda ST 1100 "Stubby" Stainless Muffler Exhaust Set (190407653253)
Member id delkevic_us | Feedback Score Of 7510 | 99.7%
Sale date: 29/07/12
US $262.95
AU $248.61
+ US $115.00
AU $108.73
postage

10 days from order to doorstep as well  :)
 
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Shiney on September 17, 2012, 10:17:40 AM
ebay :-)

Honda ST 1100 "Stubby" Stainless Muffler Exhaust Set (190407653253)
Member id delkevic_us | Feedback Score Of 7510 | 99.7%
Sale date: 29/07/12
US $262.95
AU $248.61
+ US $115.00
AU $108.73
postage

10 days from order to doorstep as well  :)

Thanks mate I’ll make sure to direct people to the US eBay for the Delkevic mufflers :thumb

Cheers
Shiney
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on September 27, 2012, 09:49:48 AM
Ebay au...
just type in Delkevic and ST100 or ST1300 and it will show you everything available
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Greencan on September 28, 2012, 03:26:36 PM
Tis different...I does different :wink1 :thumb

Well Done that Man :thumbs

Ciao, the can :)
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Stretch1100 on October 24, 2012, 10:28:28 PM
Nice job Leethal. Nice Blue too! How do the exhausts look close up? Footpeg mount plate looks a bit weird with no exhaust cover close too it.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: gaz on October 24, 2012, 11:52:03 PM
 :thumbs
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on December 04, 2012, 07:24:32 PM
3000 k's on it now since the repaint and i'm bloody lovin it  :thumbsup
thought a couple more pics might be in order....

(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/beach.jpg)

(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/commhill2.jpg)

(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/commohill1.jpg)
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Abe on December 04, 2012, 07:45:04 PM
Leethal.
She's looking great, and how is the trailer??

Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Streak on December 04, 2012, 07:51:06 PM
she looks bloody fantastic mate, love the colour
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: STutter on December 04, 2012, 08:00:28 PM
Is there any cable management involved with installing the risers? Are they pretty much bolt on?

Also, I also like the ST naked - it has a Terminator sort of feel about it  :thumb
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Diesel on December 04, 2012, 10:06:43 PM
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Awesome Leethal!


@STutter - no issues for the risers and cables on a 13. I hope the 11 is the same.

Cheers, Diesel
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Leethal on December 04, 2012, 10:17:46 PM
STutter, no cable issues with 30mm risers on the 11, but the brake line gets tight on full lock, oy when manouvering the bike in the driveway tho!
Abe, more trailer pics here and more to come in a day or two...
http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=2431 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=2431) or if that doesn't work its under Farkles, construction, more trailer trash...

cheers all
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Sabie on December 04, 2012, 10:52:58 PM
Beautiful mate....top job... :thumb
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: alphafang on December 06, 2012, 02:06:54 AM
Looking smart mate, Nice job you did there.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: TheMechwarrior on December 06, 2012, 08:58:34 AM
That job is simply stunning and you should be very proud.  :beer
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: nate on February 17, 2014, 07:10:21 PM
I certainly get where you are coming from. but i don't like the bright orange look... they still show quite bright when blinking, it is only 2 coats of the tint stuff. I reckon it's my job to miss the 'neddies', not their job to miss me  :)

Nice job, looks good..  What tint stuff did you use?
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: Abe on February 17, 2014, 07:17:16 PM
Hi Nate,

Welcome to the forum.

Leethal may take some time to get back to you as he works long hours/days.

But I can say his bike and trailer is a credit to him.

Won the best turn out at the last National Rally.
Title: Re: Repainting an ST100
Post by: nate on February 19, 2014, 05:55:44 PM
thanks Abe, no stress about the time, not in a hurry. 


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