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Honda ST1300 Section => "How To..." Instructions and Pics for Regular Maintenance Jobs specific to the ST1300... => Topic started by: Shiney on September 28, 2012, 09:49:59 PM
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The latest upgrade to my ST1300 is a HeliBars riser plate I purchased from Beema2ST (Thanks Mate :-++)
(Link to HeliBars)
http://www.helibars.com/product/g-version-honda-st1300-2003-2009 (http://www.helibars.com/product/g-version-honda-st1300-2003-2009)
Install was very straightforward :thumb
1 Place a towel over the tank to protect it from the handlebars during install.
2 Remove centre plastic cover.
3 Remove plastic covers from the Allen key bolts on the handlebars.
(https://image.ibb.co/j4SyNv/IMG_1024_zps7bb7dcd4.jpg)
4 Undo all nuts and bolts.
(https://image.ibb.co/hSJG9a/IMG_1025_zpse50b9368.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/diaw9a/IMG_1026_zpsa4bbc7e9.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/nsyuvF/IMG_1028_zpsae587858.jpg)
5 Remove standard riser plate.
(https://image.ibb.co/hspdNv/IMG_1030_zpsd23008c2.jpg)
Riser plate comparison :eek
(https://image.ibb.co/eZhb9a/IMG_1031_zps6f02e817.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/fzE1aF/IMG_1032_zps9d8b9054.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/eEUpUa/IMG_1033_zps2922992f.jpg)
6 Bolt on new riser plate.
(https://image.ibb.co/f2KChv/IMG_1034_zpsdf768147.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/kpa7FF/IMG_1036_zps7882a2da.jpg)
7 Replace handlebars and centre cover.
8 And check that the cables aren’t straining on full lock left and right. (On mine I found the clutch line was a bit tight so I undid one of the cable stays/clips to free up the movement)
On the left hand side of the handlebars there is a pipe running down that has what appears to be a plastic bend in it.
On this pipe is a plastic clip, I removed it and left it off.
(https://image.ibb.co/hE7z0F/Missing_Clip.jpg)
(The clip goes around the pipe and through the metal square)
I found this gave more movement without putting strain on the pipe.
(https://image.ibb.co/n1J52v/IMG_1037_zpsed805330.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/jhEdNv/IMG_1038_zpsa2a117a2.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/c3cnFF/IMG_1041_zpsa0a12260.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/gn91aF/IMG_1042_zps0e8b95e7.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/etx9Ua/IMG_1043_zps54e27f8a.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/i8MEvF/IMG_1046_zps204a5cd6.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/kLJuvF/IMG_1047_zpsb350da4d.jpg)
9 Go for a test ride :blu13
Here are side by side comparison pics :grin
(https://image.ibb.co/hXY52v/IMG_1016_zpsc87f8262.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/c3cnFF/IMG_1041_zpsa0a12260.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/b8N9Ua/IMG_1017_zps49c23789.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/etx9Ua/IMG_1043_zps54e27f8a.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/eN2Xhv/IMG_1019_zpsb3db7da7.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/i8MEvF/IMG_1046_zps204a5cd6.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/ntRshv/IMG_1022_zps6af66839.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/jhEdNv/IMG_1038_zpsa2a117a2.jpg)
The riser has made a big difference, I find myself sitting in a more upright and comfortable seating position and that I am able to easily corner with more lean now :runyay
All in all I would highly recommend this upgrade :thumbs
If anyone wants to feel what its like to have (HeliBars Gen3) risers on an ST1300 let me know or have a chat to me on the next ride I’m on.
Cheers
Shiney
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Good job, mate.
The comparison photo says it all.
Now... where have I seen that tank cover before? :)
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Good job, mate.
The comparison photo says it all.
Now... where have I seen that tank cover before? :)
I believe that it took the long way round to my place, from you in QLD to Couch in Tasmania and back to me in QLD :eek
The tank cover has travelled more then I have :rofl
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Good job, mate.
The comparison photo says it all.
Now... where have I seen that tank cover before? :)
I believe that it took the long way round to my place, from you in QLD to Couch in Tasmania and back to me in QLD :eek
The tank cover has travelled more then I have :rofl
Forget Queensland- you're only two suburbs away from me in Brissie!
Anyway, glad Couch found a good home for it, because it wouldn't do what he'd hoped, namely, accept a recolour dye.
Just check it for grass stains. :grin
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Looks like a useful and neat setup :thumbs approval rating
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Looks like a useful and neat setup :thumbs approval rating
Thanks mate, I'm very happy with it :grin
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Hi Shiney,
Good write up! What tank bag do you use, and how does it go for clearance to the bar on tight turns like when parking? I have a Bagster Rider but haven't tried it yet without risers, but it looks like it would foul the bag,
regards
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The bag still fits OK with risers, but your thumb is pressed right into it on full lock. I haven't tried it with the bag in "extended" mode (there is a zip to undo to increase the bag height if required).
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Hi Shiney,
Good write up! What tank bag do you use, and how does it go for clearance to the bar on tight turns like when parking? I have a Bagster Rider but haven't tried it yet without risers, but it looks like it would foul the bag,
regards
Sorry it has taken me so long to reply :-[
I use the Bagster Alpha tank bag :thumb
With the bag attached there is less movement but there is still enough to maneuver the bike... just with a bigger turning circle.
(https://image.ibb.co/iY3ipa/photo1.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/k6PZvF/photo2.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/ixrQ2v/photo3.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/mZggaF/photo4.jpg)
Cheers
Shiney
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could do with more photos :thumbsup
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Thanks Shiney. That gives me a pretty good idea of how my Rider Bagster will go with risers. Had a 350km ride today with the tank bag on with no trouble. The Bagster Rider seems to be tapered from the front to back, so I have a little more clearance with it, but will measure up against your photos to check.
Thanks again! :thumbs
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Hi Shiney
Helibars have arrived, the big install this weekend, using your guide. The hand grip covers as well.
If I have any hiccups I'll message you.
Cross fingers all goes well.
Sab
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Shiney. Nice write up mate and useful pics even if you aren't David Bailey. :eek
I'll have to investigate the risers after having seen the amount of difference they make in the grip positions!
Cheers mate.
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I know this is about "risers" I have a "grampbuster" fitted with manufacturers handle bar and I love it, as it had minimised the strain/stress to my injured wrist/shoulder (work injury, not self pleasure, before you all start) and is cheaper as a lead up to a "riser" and you can use the "crampbuster" when you have your risers.
http://www.amazon.com/Crampbuster-CB2-CrampBuster-Wide/dp/B000GZPH2U (http://www.amazon.com/Crampbuster-CB2-CrampBuster-Wide/dp/B000GZPH2U)
My 2 cents worth.
Cheers
Dave
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I carry one of those as a fall back in case the cruise control stops working. Definitely does help.
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Hi Shiney
Helibars have arrived, the big install this weekend, using your guide. The hand grip covers as well.
If I have any hiccups I'll message you.
Cross fingers all goes well.
Sab
Awesome news Sab :thumb
I have thought of one extra thing I should add...
On the left hand side of the handlebars there is a pipe running down that has what appears to be a plastic bend in it.
On this pipe is a plastic clip, I removed it and left it off.
(https://image.ibb.co/hE7z0F/Missing_Clip.jpg)
(The clip goes around the pipe and through the metal square)
I found this gave more movement without putting strain on the pipe.
Hope this helps :)
Good luck Sab, have fun with it :thumbs
Cheers
Shiney
PS: I'll add this to the above guide :thumb
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Shiney. Nice write up mate and useful pics even if you aren't David Bailey. :eek
I'll have to investigate the risers after having seen the amount of difference they make in the grip positions!
Cheers mate.
Thanks Whizz :-++
I was just sharing the experience, and showing off another farkle :grin :rofl
And there isn't many (any?) good guides around... so thought I'd do one myself :wink1
Cheers
Shiney
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Thanks for posting up, will look into getting something now. Not sure it to go for the Heli or the MCL ones?
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Hi Shiney, somehow in my fog of confusion, I ordered the MCL risers instead of the Heli Gen3 riser. Is there much difference? Are the MCL OK?
Don't know how it happened, i think a little bit of the alzimers might kicking in.....
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Shiney, mate, I think you did a bang-up job of the "How-To" and your reply set me to thinking that maybe we in OzSTOC, should make a section devoted solely to "How-To" Guides. I've seen a number of this type of guide in our forum but dotted around in different places without any real sense of organisation, and it seems to me that it would be a beneficial arrangement to have "How-To" guides all in one place, under one heading so that they become a ready source of information for anyone attempting the same Farkle.
What do others think, is it worth asking the Mods for a dedicated section for all the "How-To" Guides so that, should you want to do a particular job, you can look up to see if some-one has done it before and created a Guide on the do's and don'ts of the process?
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Hi Shiney, somehow in my fog of confusion, I ordered the MCL risers instead of the Heli Gen3 riser. Is there much difference? Are the MCL OK?
Don't know how it happened, i think a little bit of the alzimers might kicking in.....
Sab,
The MCL riser plate looks like it should follow the same process for install :thumb
If you have any issues let me know and I'll help where I can :)
Cheers
Shiney
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Shiney, mate, I think you did a bang-up job of the "How-To" and your reply set me to thinking that maybe we in OzSTOC, should make a section devoted solely to "How-To" Guides. I've seen a number of this type of guide in our forum but dotted around in different places without any real sense of organisation, and it seems to me that it would be a beneficial arrangement to have "How-To" guides all in one place, under one heading so that they become a ready source of information for anyone attempting the same Farkle.
What do others think, is it worth asking the Mods for a dedicated section for all the "How-To" Guides so that, should you want to do a particular job, you can look up to see if some-one has done it before and created a Guide on the do's and don'ts of the process?
Awesome idea Whizz :-++
I can see a "How-To" section being very handy :thumbs
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How did the install go Sab?
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Pretty straight forward, especially after I broke my fingers to create addition knuckles..... :)
Only thing left to do is wire in he powerlet plug, just gotta figure out how....
o:) just wanted to try the new icon.......
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Awesome news Sab :thumb
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Nice work Shiney :thumbsup
After reading your post i ordered a standard helibar riser off Ebay from the U.S & installed it
a few days ago....best thing ever :grin
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Nice work Shiney :thumbsup
After reading your post i ordered a standard helibar riser off Ebay from the U.S & installed it
a few days ago....best thing ever :grin
Thanks mate :hatwave
I’m always happy when I or my How-To posts are of help to others :grin
Cheers
Shiney
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Shiney, Mine too are on order, from a mob in Melbourne called Mick Hone Motorcycles. Will report one they get here and I use your "How To" to fit them. :thumbs :thumbsup
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Got my helibars from Mick Hone aswell.....best Aust price.....took about 3 stubbies to fit with no re-routing of cables (as I had Gen Mars fitted)....just a changed of angle on the brake/clutch res lines if no previous blocks.
You will be happy for sure....
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ah Shiney your a legend........ Your how to was a big help when I installed mine... I had the laptop in the shed with your how to post open. :thumb
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Awesome news guys :hatwave
As always it is great to hear that I have been of help to others :-++
As the How-To posts appear to be helping I’m going to PM Diesel and Streak as Whizz suggested and ask if a How-To section can be added to the forum :thumb
Cheers
Shiney
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Awesome news guys :hatwave
As always it is great to hear that I have been of help to others :-++
As the How-To posts appear to be helping I’m going to PM Diesel and Streak as Whizz suggested and ask if a How-To section can be added to the forum :thumb
Cheers
Shiney
Well Diesel and Streak have come through with a new section :runyay
"How To Instructions and Pics for Regular Maintenance Jobs on the ST1300"
Awesome work guys, thankyou :-++ :-++
Cheers
Shiney
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Well, I got my Helibar Risers in the mail a couple of days ago, and, it being Friday, I fitted them this arvo, following Shiney's explicit and incredibly useful instructions (OK, maybe not absolutely to the letter, but at least to the intent). Took me about 2.5 hours, but I wasn't trying to rush and I did a couple of other little things whilst I was there.
I then took the monSTer out for a spin around the block to see what it felt like. I was actually quite nervous having seen the markedly different position of the grips, but I'm absolutely blown away by how different the bike feels. The upward and backward movement of the bars has pushed my not inconsiderable bum back into the Morehouse-modified seat and made that feel 'just right'. It's changed the angle of my wrists, pushed my back up straighter and completely changed the feel of the bike when I'm riding.
It feels far more like the Goldwing motorised armchair that I took for a test ride over 18 months ago, and somehow has made the experience of cornering feel far easier and far more fluid. I know, but it's hard to explain. It just feels far more 'under control' than it did before. At 6ft 3" I was being forced to lean just that little bit too far forward to be perfectly comfortable, and the sitting position that created put some strain on my lower back and tended to cause me to lock up on the bars, but with the Risers in, there seems to be no tendency for me to do that.
It is an all together a more comfortable ride, and I would wholeheartedly recommend them to all.
Next job is to hook up the Powerlet and see what else I can get on the front that needs power.
Thanks Shiney for the "How To", dammed useful mate; certainly made my job easier!!! :-++
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Awesome news Whizz, :thumbs I’m glad you found the how to helpful and have found the riser to be such an improvement :runyay
Cheers
Shiney
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Shiney,
Saaz just fitted my risers for me. Like others I set up the laptop in the garage and followed your instructions.
The only surprise was how tight the bolts were. I had to use a large shifter on the end of the T-bar and again on the end of the rachet handle to get the bolts to move.
We poked the business end of a radio antenna down the centre hole to confirm that it would be possible to route the power cable that way.
Thats a job for this afternoon as soon as I work out where and how to get to the battery.
Thanks for your instructions.
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Awesome work Lionel & Saaz :thumb
I'm can't express how happy I am with just how much the guides have been able to assist everyone :grin
I'm glad the install went well and I'm sure you'll love the new riding position :thumbs
By the way, how'd the power install go?
Cheers
Shiney
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Thanks to Shiney for his How To. :slvr13
I read the post , looked at the pictures and then followed all the Helibar instructions.
Simple Job made even easier, all done in 1 hour. Plus a 10 min test ride.
Definately feels different.
Cheers,
Hendo
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Great stuff mate :hatwave
I'm glad to hear that you have found it useful :thumbsup
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THE PICTURES HAVE BEEN UPDATED ++
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Did mine last night 8)
Shiney your instructions were very helpful. The helibars instructions were fine too but comparing yours with theirs helped to get it straight in my mind.
I missed the bit in your instructions about popping the shiney plastic caps off the hex head bolts. It took a bit of head scratching and staring at those shiney things before the penny dropped.
The only problem I had was because my STeed came with the police riser, the bolts were an inch longer than usual so I had to race off to Bunnings to grab some shorter bolts. Love that they are open until my bed time lol.
Now the STeed has a much more relaxed feel and it’s good to get the weight off the bars. The extra-wide CalSci doesn’t foul the levers on full lock anymore either. The handling is different and will take a few rides to get used to I expect.
All up.... very good mod. Still need to wire in the powerlet but that’s for another day.
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Awesome work mate, I'm glad to hear they are working out for you :thumbsup
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Hello Shiney and all with HeliRisers.
My replacement ST1300 was fitted with their HR01033 risers when I bought it.
I've found that I need to unbolt the risers to move them out of the way to lift the petrol tank.
I'm not greatly fussed on any possible benefits from the HeliRisers, as I had ridden 20,000km in 40 days with the factory setup on my original bike, without any comfort problems from the seating position. They don't seem to do much for me, except make life hard, when lifting the tank servicing, so will probably leave them out during reassembly. A replacement RAM mount will be easy and the European accessory socket was never used, anyway.
Questions:
Is it possible to lift the tank in the original way and use the standard rod to support it?
If not, how do you blokes service the air filter etc?
:blk13 :think1
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The tank can be raised with the risers attached however I don't use the standard rod to hold it up.
The tank has to be slid all the way back then moved slightly from side to side to clear the switches on the handlebars.
Once it has been raised I use a strap/bungee cord to hold the tank up.
(Below is an old picture showing what I mean)
(https://image.ibb.co/gXS7nv/20160906_112336_zpskdvlogma.jpg)
I hope this helps.
Cheers
Shiney
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OK, thanks. I'll have to persist with the combination of sideways tank movement and handlebar rotation a bit more, by the look of this.
Regards
John
:blk13 :beer
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Remember you need to loosen the bolt running through the rear of the tank on both sides to allow the tank to be moved back away from the riser before being lifted.
(https://image.ibb.co/noNPEa/08_09.jpg)
Cheers
Shiney
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Yeah, that bit's OK. Without moving the tank back in those slots, it won't clear the HeliRiser base block.
When pushed back and raised, the front corners of the tank come up under the switchblocks on the handlebars and I couldn't find an easy way to wiggle the bars and tank to raise it any higher. Having a near full tank didn't help, either.
All good for now, thanks.
Regards
John
:blk13