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Honda ST1300 Section => Electrics & Electronics - Volts, Amps and Fuses ST1300 => Topic started by: STRay (Roo Killer) on February 10, 2014, 10:25:03 PM

Title: Let There Be Light
Post by: STRay (Roo Killer) on February 10, 2014, 10:25:03 PM
This photo shows quite well what the headlight on a ST1300 should NOT look like:  :fp :fp

(http://strayrider.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Black-Betty/i-5knnPjd/0/L/20140201_081300-L.jpg)

So I set about rectifying the situation and improving the light ouput from the front of the bike.  :H

(http://strayrider.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Black-Betty/i-PBLtzJb/0/L/RS1_0135-L.jpg)

A few hours later ( along with a couple of other jobs on the electrics of the other farkles ) at about 20:30 on Saturday night I had a bike that now looks like this at the front:  :hatwave

(http://strayrider.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Black-Betty/i-SvVF8XF/0/L/RS1_0141-L.jpg)

And here she is in daylight in the carpark at work this evening:  :thumbs

(http://strayrider.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Black-Betty/i-NnFJ75M/0/L/20140210_175217_1-L.jpg)

The new lumens are fired up through a 3 way switch, 1: a time delay before firing up to allow starting of the bike with the lights off, 2: OFF ( great for doing maint with the bike powered up ), and 3: ON ( no delay )

The headlight assembly came from here:
http://eshop.ktautopart.com/motorcycle-custom-headlights/honda-custom-headlights/honda-st1300-pan-european-custom-headlight-assembly/honda-st1300-pan-european-custom-headlight-assembly-2001-2011.html (http://eshop.ktautopart.com/motorcycle-custom-headlights/honda-custom-headlights/honda-st1300-pan-european-custom-headlight-assembly/honda-st1300-pan-european-custom-headlight-assembly-2001-2011.html)

The instructions for the time delay install etc from here:

http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?97702-HID-Install-with-Time-Delay-Relay (http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?97702-HID-Install-with-Time-Delay-Relay)

So far it looks like a big improvement, this weekends FarRide will be the big test and I will report on the good, the bad and me after I get back.
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: Biggles on February 10, 2014, 10:41:13 PM
Hokaaaay...
$600 later, and what looks like a heart transplant, here's hoping it's brilliant.
What colours did you choose for the "eyes"?
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: STRay (Roo Killer) on February 10, 2014, 10:49:57 PM
Forgot to mention that bit!!

4300k for the HID's, 35Watt ballasts and white " Angel Eyes", No "Demon Eyes"

I went for the 4300K's as I find the 6000K I have in the spotties is not very effective at dawn and dusk and 4300K is what the car manufacturers use as standard.

That price is US Dollars, it cost quite a bit more with the time delay relays etc, but still cheaper than an OEM headlight here in Oz!
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: Biggles on February 10, 2014, 10:54:30 PM
I went for the 4300K's as I find the 6000K I have in the spotties is not very effective at dawn and dusk and 4300K is what the car manufacturers use as standard.

There's science demonstrating the yellower 4300K reflect back what you need to see more effectively than 6000+K.
It's a while since I read it on the US-STOC forum, but a search might turn it up.  Apart from that, it's easier on the eyes of oncoming drivers.
 
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: STRay (Roo Killer) on February 10, 2014, 11:01:45 PM
Yeah, I remember reading something similar myself a while ago. It was also a major factor in the decision of which colour to go for.

No flashing lights from oncoming traffic yet, but I think I still have to adjust them up a bit on the headlight itself, as they look a little low with the dash adjuster cranked right up, but it has a very well defined cutoff on low beam.
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: ST2UP on February 11, 2014, 05:40:31 AM
Looks the part  :thumbsup awaiting your report......enjoy the FarRide  :thumb
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: STRay (Roo Killer) on February 15, 2014, 07:29:51 PM
Ok, so how did the new lumen pusher go last nite?

In short, Bloody fantastic!!  :thumbsup :thumbsup

I was leaving Midvale around sunset last nite, and found the lite to be quite effective in the low lite with all the street lites etc. Once I got a bit further east, and out of traffic and street lites it was very obvious that this light was gunna be pretty good. :clap

On low beam, it lights up the left side very well from the ground up to the cutoff, the right side has a much lower cutoff to avoid blinding oncoming traffic. High beam fills in the areas cutoff on low beam very well with the added benefit of not requiring any more power ( unlike halogens ). The switch from low to high is instantaneous. Add my HID spotties to this mix and the result is WOW!!!!!!!! The headlight seemed to push the lumens a little less down the road than the spotties, but not by much.

At about 21:45 last nite I lost the use of the spotties and did not have time to troubleshoot, so I thought to self, lets see how good this lite is! Well, I cruised at 100 - 110KPH all nite!

The 4300k globes seem to be a good call as well. They don't blind you with the reflections from the roadside signs, and this morning with the sunrise behind me, I really could not tell when the lites stopped being effective and daylite took over!

No pics, as I wanted to test all my other farkles as well and I was very pressed for time. If I remember, I will try and get some this week after work to show the effectiveness of the cutoffs etc.

Now to give the beast a good scrub!!

(http://strayrider.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Black-Betty/i-PgvnMMJ/0/L/20140215_160624-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: Brock on February 15, 2014, 07:35:20 PM
OK, you set the bait, so I'm going to bite.... :OldMan

Its night and light... not lite n nite :well :well :|||| :||||

At least you didnt write in text speak, that annoys me a tad.. :cuss
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: STRay (Roo Killer) on February 15, 2014, 07:41:36 PM
OK, you set the bait, so I'm going to bite.... :OldMan

Its night and light... not lite n nite :well :well :|||| :||||

At least you didnt write in text speak, that annoys me a tad.. :cuss

I guess i'm too used to reading yankee tork!
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: tj189 on February 15, 2014, 09:12:20 PM
Hmmm, getting very interested in this set up. 

I must admit though, I have been very happy with the 6000K( when I replaced these I found out that they were 4300k  :|||| ).  I really do believe it comes down to each of us as individuals when it comes to lights.  Our eyes are like fingerprints everyone is different.

The HIDs in my headlight and spot lights (pencil beams)  are 6000K and to me, the Clearwater Krista  LED's are of a similar brightness.

I really do like the cut off and magnification of light.

Keep coming with your information it is great and thank you
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: ST2UP on February 15, 2014, 09:22:14 PM
 Who makes the HID driving lights your using Ray ?? they look like the Hella DE Micro ??


The new lights look very sweeeet !!



 :beer
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: STRay (Roo Killer) on February 15, 2014, 09:24:37 PM
Yep, thems the ones. Catch is they come with the older large ballasts. Unlike the tiny ones for the headlight

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Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: tj189 on April 22, 2014, 12:31:28 PM
Ray, did you order the 35w ballasts or did they automatically come with the selection  of the 4300k globes?  I intend on going back to 35w 4300K HID lights and the same for the pencil beam spotlights.  Have you any more feedback with how your kit is performing?  (just about to order the kit  :wink1 )  Thanks
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: STRay (Roo Killer) on April 22, 2014, 08:40:20 PM
Ray, did you order the 35w ballasts or did they automatically come with the selection  of the 4300k globes?  I intend on going back to 35w 4300K HID lights and the same for the pencil beam spotlights.  Have you any more feedback with how your kit is performing?  (just about to order the kit  :wink1 )  Thanks

Yep, had to ask for the 35W ballasts as they ship with 50W as standard. The unit is still going very well, no interest from the boys in blue either. The light is very good from them, on the last FarRide they were all I had for most of the night and I was still able to do the speed limit with pretty good lighting. As someone else mentioned, they do point straight into the ground if you get a bit "spirited" thru corners!
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: tj189 on April 22, 2014, 10:19:22 PM
Thanks for the information  :thumb
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: Chatty on April 23, 2014, 12:59:19 PM
Does the conversion retain the original motorised level adjustment on the headlight?
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: STRay (Roo Killer) on April 23, 2014, 08:50:20 PM
Does the conversion retain the original motorised level adjustment on the headlight?
Yep, one of the fiddlier bits of the work. You have to take the original one off and install it on the new headlight. Setting the beam height took a while, now I have it set a bit lower for around town, and crank it up a couple of clicks on the highway. The new housing looks as good as an OEM one, probably made by the same people.
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: Roadrunner on May 24, 2014, 07:57:07 PM
TJ made an offer of a cup of tea if I call in for a chat and a look at his set up.
Now I am worried I might catch this serious  farkling disease :rofl and severely deplete what little is in my bank :fp
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: STRay (Roo Killer) on May 24, 2014, 08:02:56 PM
TJ made an offer of a cup of tea if I call in for a chat and a look at his set up.
Now I am worried I might catch this serious  farkling disease :rofl and severely deplete what little is in my bank :fp


It is a very severe disease that does tend to have dire consequences for the bank balance!!
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: tj189 on May 24, 2014, 10:34:13 PM
What he said  :thumb
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: Biggles on August 31, 2014, 11:29:24 PM
You say you want more lights?

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/Pixtor/ST1300atIBAMeet20142_zps58a85c9d.jpg)

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Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: LindsayGT on April 02, 2015, 04:35:56 PM
Hey STRay,

It's been over a year since you did this conversion.

Are you still happy with it? Have you found any Gotchas?

Thanks,
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: STRay (Roo Killer) on April 02, 2015, 04:44:21 PM
Lindsay,
             Very happy with the conversion, no "Gotcha's" to report. With the lights on "high" and my spotties, skippy has no chance now! No need for lots of lights to do the same job and only 14Amps total draw with 'em all on.


Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: tj189 on April 03, 2015, 11:07:53 AM
I have had my conversion done for some time now and still very pleased with the results  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: Shiney on April 03, 2015, 02:44:57 PM
What Angel Eye and Demon Eye colours did you guys get?
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: STRay (Roo Killer) on April 03, 2015, 02:47:01 PM
White Angel Eyes and NO demon Eyes for me
Title: Re: Let There Be Light
Post by: tj189 on April 03, 2015, 09:09:19 PM
went the same way as STRay