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Change the OzSTOC selection process or not ?
« on: October 24, 2015, 12:26:27 PM »
Ok get your reading glasses and a coffee.... :nahnah


The OzSTOC leadership team as we have evolved has always used a method of selecting members to undertake roles within the club based on their passion for OzSTOC, contribution to the group, skill set and all round suitability to the role. This commenced from the conception of the club with Diesel bringing Streak into the equation.

Soon after Saaz and Brock where poached as forum Moderators to the club, followed sometime later by Whizz who assisted in an administration role and data collection as well as his Moderation duties then Pockey was added to the skill mix to add the feminine touch to the forum and for the Pillions section.

These roles were selected by the previous Leadership team in Diesel and Streak, in late 2013 Pockey and I where approached by Diesel & Streak with a proposal to take on the leadership role of OzSTOC as they wished to retire from the leadership roles and focus on other commitments, after many weeks of negotiating, soul searching and research we agreed providing Saaz would come in as a third partner for the sake of transparency as we believed having a married couple at the helm could lead to a poor decision making process in the event of a stalemate. Saaz agreed and we moved forward with the new leadership team in early 2014. 

One of the early concepts we put in place was State/Territory Ride Co-ordinators, National Rally Co-ordinator and a Facebook moderator and shop caretaker. The rationale behind additional members taking on these extra positions was to lighten the load of the Leadership team and to better provide a collective focus on the clubs growth as we now were well beyond 600 members. We in the leadership roles found these appointments enriched the members OzSTOC experience based on the feedback and encouragement we have received.     

We now find ourselves in a position that through natural attrition and tragedy that a void now exist in the OzSTOC team. Streak asked to be removed as a Moderator nearly 12 months ago and Whizz and Saaz are no longer with us, and in many ways have left an irreplaceable emptiness, but as an organization we must move into our future.

The previous and current leadership teams have received some backlash in the past from a minority of members about the way our organizational structure was selected and appointed into various roles within OzSTOC and further questioned the transparency of the process. To this end, we are going to utilize a very different format to hopefully alleviate future concerns about this process, but more importantly give a member/s who have a genuine desire along with those already in these varied roles to help propel OzSTOC into the future. Selecting and approaching members into these roles has been an arduous task in the past, but I'm sure the vast majority will agree that for a organization that is not a registered club with a constitution or business plan we have made good choices and selected members who's genuine focus have the best interests of the group as paramount.

So how this is going to play out..... :think1


I'm requesting a member/s with a genuine passion for OzSTOC, its members and our principals to consider the following offer.......

We are looking for a current member to come on board the OzSTOC leadership team with Pockey and I, to make the third voice in the clubs direction and decision making processes. The member would also become a Moderator of the clubs forum to assist Brock, Diesel, Pockey and I. This is open to ALL OzSTOC members regardless of duration of membership, forum post counts or popularity etc. But one exclusion to many members will be the tyranny of distance.....in the past the leadership team has meet a few times each year face to face in addition to RTE's to discuss many aspects of the clubs direction, the prospective member would need to be east coast based or seriously prepared to travel. Pockey, Saaz and I have had far more meetings in strange places than members realize over the last 18 months  :eek

It should be obvious but I will state it for the record, there is absolutely no remuneration package with this role or ours, in fact to be brutally honest....it will cost you money, while not a fortune its a job of love and can not be taken lightly. It will cost you sleep, it can impinge on family life and not everyone is going to like the decisions you help make, but it does have its little personal rewards occasionally when a plan comes together  :thumb


If I haven't lost you yet and you think you have the passion, willingness and commitment that is considerable  :o send a PM to me please with your claim for the position by 15th of November 2015, Poll will go live the following day and close at the end of November 2015.

We will then post a poll on our forum so the collective membership can research and vote for the candidate who they believe to be best suited for the role. We will hide the Poll results until the completion of the Poll and then release the results to the forum for all to see the final count.

Now this is important!!.....If we get minimal participation and votes in the OzSTOC Forum Poll this will indicated to us that you wish us to remain with the status quo in regards to member position selection and have us chose a suitable and willing candidate as in the past. Further if there is only one applicant they will need to be approved by the majority, consisting of Pocket STocker, Brock, Diesel, myself and StinkyPete the National Rally Co-ordinator to give us total of 5 in the selection quorum. If we have no applicants, then we will get on with the task at hand managing the day to day activities of the club as we have been and using the best practices we have worked by in the past hopefully entice a suitable candidate into the role.

I know this all sounds quiet political for an apolitical group, but it will provide a transparency to the process that we have been told is lacking in the past.



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Re: Changing the process or not ?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2015, 12:40:44 PM »
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Re: Changing the process or not ?
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2015, 12:48:22 PM »
This looks like an appropriate and fair way forward, and is a step towards setting the precedent for the way future leaders are selected.   I would encourage anyone with a passion for OzSTOC and a willingness to get involved in leading and the decision making process, to think about putting your hand up.
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Re: Changing the process or not ?
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2015, 12:54:25 PM »
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I appreciate what you guys do, as your predecessors have in the past in what can be a thankless time consuming role.
Whoever does step up would need to consider the commitment,passion and time sacifice that the position demands.......it ain't easy at the top.
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Re: Changing the process or not ?
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2015, 01:09:09 PM »
I think it is a fantastic idea, and i am happy to say one i have had nothing to do with creating! Well done! Looking forward to seeing  who puts their hand up for this amazing, wonderful group ☺
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Re: Changing the process or not ?
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2015, 01:25:29 PM »
There are two things I could add.

Firstly Chris and Jean, is you might want set a deadline for nominations to close, say 3 weeks, to give members who are considering it, time to talk with family and friends and then release the poll with a similar defined closing period, to allow for members who travel etc time to log in and vote.

The other thing I would suggest is leave it open to all and make use of video conferencing if you can. It takes a little getting used to the small time delay, but over Internet is cheap.

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Re: Changing the process or not ?
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2015, 01:35:22 PM »
Well written, I just wish some of the other clubs I'm involved in were half as organised, diplomatic and PROACTIVE as you guys are!! Ive only been around a few months, but really enjoy the group already, I'll be watching with great interest to see what comes about.
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Re: Changing the process or not ?
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2015, 04:04:34 PM »
Well thought out.

Have you thought about creating the position of Honorary Proof Reader?    :rofl
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Re: Changing the process or not ?
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2015, 04:54:03 PM »
Well thought out.

Have you thought about creating the position of Honorary Proof Reader?    :rofl


The club couldn't possible afford your skills of critique Bill.....But you did say Honorary  :think1

Can I send you the young blokes homework to start with  :butt


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Re: Changing the process or not ?
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2015, 09:05:20 PM »
There are two things I could add.

Firstly Chris and Jean, is you might want set a deadline for nominations to close, say 3 weeks, to give members who are considering it, time to talk with family and friends and then release the poll with a similar defined closing period, to allow for members who travel etc time to log in and vote.

The other thing I would suggest is leave it open to all and make use of video conferencing if you can. It takes a little getting used to the small time delay, but over Internet is cheap.

Cheers,
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Thanks Gadget, post update......Expression of interest for the role close 15/11/2015 with the poll opening the 16/11/2015 and closing at the end of November 2015.


We talked and played with conferencing briefly, in that session the 2 main issues that arose where our internet speed lets us down and we spent 5 minutes looking at the other parties still shot and we had a couple of products that we needed to manually assess. But there may be times it's possible  :think1

Thanks for the input  :thumbsup
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Re: Change the OzSTOC selection process or not ?
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2015, 09:38:22 PM »
Pat on backs time!
I'd like to congratulate the leadership team for doing a great job!  The forum is interesting and informative and very supportive of those of us with a love of motorcycling.
I would personally prefer to trust the current committee to select or encourage additional members.  If it came to a ballot, I don't know if I would have enough information about the candidate to decide suitability or compatibility with the existing group
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Re: Change the OzSTOC selection process or not ?
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2015, 07:03:03 AM »
I look forward to seeing how this goes, good luck to everyone that puts their name forward :thumbsup

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Re: Change the OzSTOC selection process or not ?
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2015, 07:09:53 AM »
Pat on backs time!
I'd like to congratulate the leadership team for doing a great job!  The forum is interesting and informative and very supportive of those of us with a love of motorcycling.
I would personally prefer to trust the current committee to select or encourage additional members.  If it came to a ballot, I don't know if I would have enough information about the candidate to decide suitability or compatibility with the existing group
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Your correct, it is a big broad group of members spread Australia wide......but can I recommend to assist you in your vote (If you chose to vote) is to research the quality and content of the candidates post on the form, this may provide some insight  :think1


Thanks for your confidence Phil  :-++


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Re: Change the OzSTOC selection process or not ?
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2015, 10:14:39 AM »
I look forward to seeing how this goes, good luck to everyone that puts their name forward :thumbsup

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Re: Change the OzSTOC selection process or not ?
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2015, 11:55:03 AM »
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Re: Change the OzSTOC selection process or not ?
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2015, 12:13:14 PM »
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Re: Change the OzSTOC selection process or not ?
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2015, 12:29:47 PM »
Great idea but in all seriousness I feel the way it has been done has worked well.

Having been (and currently still on) a number of boards I can say there is a huge benefit to the working progress when all board members are on the same page.

As there is no financial benefit ( nor could there possibly be ) I like the idea of the current board members choosing someone they can and want to work with.

I understand the issues about transparency and the like but again we are not a financially motivated club and as you said it will actually cost the board members to be a part of it.

I will support the executive if they choose someone and I will also support members if it comes to a vote...... although I think we are going to have had enough of electioneering in the coming months with some State and federal elections due and also a lot of councils are coming up for renewal as well.   :fp
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Re: Change the OzSTOC selection process or not ?
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2015, 03:55:50 PM »
I am quite happy with what is proposed.
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Re: Change the OzSTOC selection process or not ?
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2015, 07:36:39 PM »
To Chris and Jean. I think you are a fantastically awesome couple. If no one voluntarily puts their hand up, I have total confidence that you would approach a likeminded person to join the team. I fail to see how anyone could be in this for self interest. Well done to everyone that has had an input into running and co-ordinating this blog/forum. Legends, every one of you.  :thumb 
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Re: Change the OzSTOC selection process or not ?
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2015, 08:13:32 PM »
I'm in it for the renumeration and retirement package...


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Re: Change the OzSTOC selection process or not ?
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2015, 08:18:13 PM »
Brock you are worth heaps more . . Quadruple what you get now . . I'll support that!
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2015, 08:18:23 PM »
Yep an increase to 3/5ths of ?ark all is still an increase  :hatwave
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Re: Change the OzSTOC selection process or not ?
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2015, 06:44:54 AM »
UPDATE:


Well the 15th November closing date has come and gone, thank you for the PM's of support and the support of the current and previous leadership and moderation team  :thumbsup

We had 1x phone call to ask a couple of questions but no ensuing PM and 1x PM for the role.

Based on only the 1 application the 5 admin/moderation members mentioned above will now discuss and vote.

Stay tuned.


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