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Offline WizFizzle

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Bit of everything
« on: July 21, 2020, 09:49:04 PM »
Hi all,
On my ride home tonight from work I somehow stalled the bike after about 20 minutes (bike was warm enough) when it came to idle at a set of lights. Looking through the forums I've seen that the 5 way connector under the air filter box can be an issue so I thought I could have a quick look under tonight to see if that could be the issue before I investigated further (I also currently have error 26 on my FI light which also led me to this connector.) However upon inspection after getting most of the screws out I was met with a stripped out screw from a previous owner and it just wasn't keen to budge. I've tried the rubber band trick to hopefully gain traction but no luck and this is the only part stopping me from gaining access. I've re assembled the bike now and am currently going through an ECU reset which I will finish tomorrow but wanted to know if anyone has any ideas on how I can get this screw out before I go for my next attempt later through the week.
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Re: Bit of everything
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2020, 10:39:02 PM »
Years ago I butchered one of those wretched screws and ended up drilling the mongrel out, damaging the nylon surrounding the screw in the process.  I since found out the screws are JIS type meaning a Phillips head screw driver will quite possibly damage a difficult-to-move JIS screw.  When I put the cruise control in Rubina recently, I used an "OZSTOC JIS" driver- that is, a #2 Phillips driver with 1mm of the tip ground off.  I also gave each of the 8 screws a mild tap (on the top of the screw driver) which helped to get them to budge.
You should use a JIS driver on all the ST's screws- the grip feels really positive, unlike a Phillips driver.
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Re: Bit of everything
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2020, 10:45:59 PM »
https://imgur.com/a/xMs5GdB
Unfortunately this is the current state of 1 screw
 

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Re: Bit of everything
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2020, 11:40:48 PM »
If you are carefull, you can drill the head off,. use a drill the same size as the thread. If you are lucky, once the head is off. you may be able to use pointy nose pliers to remove the rest.
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Re: Bit of everything
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2020, 04:59:56 AM »
Any form of old screwdriver that fits in the remnants with a dollop of JB Weld and let set for a few hours should work...Oh, and the toolkit screwdriver is a JIS head
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Re: Bit of everything
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2020, 10:07:01 AM »
https://imgur.com/a/xMs5GdB
Unfortunately this is the current state of 1 screw

Yep, been there, done that.  Fortunately a nice new sharp drill bit of 4 or 5mm will sit in the middle of the dimple and let you drill the top off, as Brock says.  These things are so tight (it's a shouldered screw that is torqued into the head) that I'm not sure even JB Weld is up to the job, but by all means try it.  If you haven't used JB Weld before you won't regret having it in your armoury. It's not cheap for small tubes.  Available at Jaycar in QLD.
As Brock says, the toolkit screw driver is JIS, but you'd need some way of holding it (vice grips, anyone?) because this screw is one tough mother.
When you're done butchering the location, you'll probably need a new nylon tube thingy.  I botched together the damaged one while I waited for the replacement to arrive.
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Re: Bit of everything
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2020, 05:46:08 PM »
As Brock says, the toolkit screw driver is JIS, but you'd need some way of holding it (vice grips, anyone?) because this screw is one tough mother.

You can still buy JIS screwdrivers (supposedly JIS anyhow) from ebay, Amazon etc but you'll usually pay a ridiculous price.

Something like this one might work: https://tinyurl.com/y4o7ydzd  :think1


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Re: Bit of everything
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2020, 07:54:31 PM »
I just ordered a set of JIS screw drivers:-

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/JIS-Screwdrivers-Vessel-0-1-2-3-Eco-Cross-Point-Screwdriver/143594465781?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Am impact screwdriver may still free that one up. If you destroy it I have some spares as well as the plastic piece from the bike I am parting. One of those screws from the bike I am parting out had a normal slot cut into it but first you have to get that one out.
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Re: Bit of everything
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2020, 08:07:04 PM »
Taking your advice onboard I got some JB weld.
Fingers crossed if I set a driver into it it will be enough to set her free. I'm looking at jumping into bolt masters and replacing my brake reservoir screws and these air intake screws with stainless so they will hold up a bit better.
 

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Re: Bit of everything
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2020, 08:51:06 PM »
Remember it is a shouldered screw.
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