The End

[Sabie]

Greencan.... Thats Sacrilege ..... .  Of course it's the best.......

[saaz]

The local Honda dealer did not seem at all interested in chasing up wheter any more ST13s were available at the runout price. They did have a cheap VFR1200 with all the hard bags and topbox for around $17k ride away, but it is definitely not an ST13 replacement.

[Sabie]

No mention of the ST on the Japanese Honda website..

http://www.honda.co.jp/motor/

Sabie - what makes you think I can read Japanese ?   
But it is still on the U.K. website

Konichiwa Rendog San

It's still for sale on the US site as well.

Sayonara

[Down Under]

The local Honda dealer did not seem at all interested in chasing up wheter any more ST13s were available at the runout price. They did have a cheap VFR1200 with all the hard bags and topbox for around $17k ride away, but it is definitely not an ST13 replacement.

What a stunning failure the VFR 1200 is.....remember when they retailed for 25 K!  With the demise of the ST1300 in Oz.....Honda doesn't seem to be too concerned about becoming a non event in the sport touring segment of the market.    

It would be nice to think that they've been working on an ST replacement that'll blow us all away but it looks like Honda's been too busy turning their Goldwings into cruiser hybrids and developing bikes like the CTX.  Maybe that's where they think the market is going for them?

[Marcus]

I would have thought being as open and big a place as Australia the sport touring market would be Huge here for them

[Sabie]

Didn't Ford do a similar thing in the 80's with the V8's and left the V8 market and now are hard pressed to get the market share back from GMH?

It's a bit short sighted by Honda, to have a bike that is superior to its competitors in every sense and only needs some revision to update it and not so much remoldel it.

One day the 1100's will be unviable to keep repairing and then the 1300's as time marches on. So what do we ride in the future, I expect I still have another 20 to 25 years on a bike maybe even more god willing, as the previous owner of my bike was 80.

Bad Form Honda Australia...

[rendog]

Didn't Ford do a similar thing in the 80's with the V8's and left the V8 market and now are hard pressed to get the market share back from GMH?

Yep I remember Ford telling us that Australian's didn't want V8's anymore.
I'm guessing their market reserach was done on High St Prahran, as opposed to Main St Geelong.
Maybe same thing with Honda, their market reserach was done in Shangzon Bvd, Guangdong?
This is after all where the future of the mass produced market is.
BTW. I can't read the Chinese Honda site either 

[Sabie]

Didn't Ford do a similar thing in the 80's with the V8's and left the V8 market and now are hard pressed to get the market share back from GMH?

Yep I remember Ford telling us that Australian's didn't want V8's anymore.
I'm guessing their market reserach was done on High St Prahran, as opposed to Main St Geelong.
Maybe same thing with Honda, their market reserach was done in Shangzon Bvd, Guangdong?
This is after all where the future of the mass produced market is.
BTW. I can't read the Chinese Honda site either 

I heard the Chinese web site is run by a guy called Whu Flung Dung.......

[Greencan]

Honda doesn't seem to be too concerned about becoming a non event in the sport touring segment of the market.     

...what's a VFR800 then

One day the 1100's will be unviable to keep repairing

...what is there that needs to be routinely repaired . Have I missed something?

Of all the bikes I have and had, a bog standard and unaltered 1100 is by far the most reliable, maintenance easy and boring ride I have got. That's its attraction!

Cheers, the can:-)

[Down Under]

Honda doesn't seem to be too concerned about becoming a non event in the sport touring segment of the market.     

...what's a VFR800 then

One day the 1100's will be unviable to keep repairing

...what is there that needs to be routinely repaired . Have I missed something?

Of all the bikes I have and had, a bog standard and unaltered 1100 is by far the most reliable, maintenance easy and boring ride I have got. That's its attraction!

Cheers, the can:-)

The VFR800 is a beautiful bike but it's beginning to show its age.  It wasn't too long ago when Honda had some real breadth and depth in their sport touring range.  Variety such as the CBR1000XX, VTR1000, CB1300/S plus the VFR800 and ST1300.  The VFR1200 has been a sales disaster and I'm not interested in crossing the continent fully loaded, 2 up on a VFR800.

[rendog]

The VFR800 is a beautiful bike but it's beginning to show its age.  It wasn't too long ago when Honda had some real breadth and depth in their sport touring range.  Variety such as the CBR1000XX, VTR1000, CB1300/S plus the VFR800 and ST1300.  The VFR1200 has been a sales disaster and I'm not interested in crossing the continent fully loaded, 2 up on a VFR800.

It appears the CBF1000 is being marketed as the main tourer for Asia.
But the Pan European is still on the Asian website.
Though the attraction to sheep is a bit weird 
The Blackbird was a stonker CBR1100XX but not many places one can ride at 200km/hr+
I don't want to spend $40G on a huge GL1800 - fullstop
And I agree touring two up on an 800 is just painful 

I will be keeping mine in good condition for a few more years yet.
And when I get old and need to slow down I'll go buy a Harley 

[Sabie]

Honda doesn't seem to be too concerned about becoming a non event in the sport touring segment of the market.     

...what's a VFR800 then

One day the 1100's will be unviable to keep repairing

...what is there that needs to be routinely repaired . Have I missed something?

Of all the bikes I have and had, a bog standard and unaltered 1100 is by far the most reliable, maintenance easy and boring ride I have got. That's its attraction!

Cheers, the can:-)

My point was Can, that the ST's won't go forever in the numbers that are currently on the road. That one day they'll wear out.

[Sabie]

The VFR800 is a beautiful bike but it's beginning to show its age.  It wasn't too long ago when Honda had some real breadth and depth in their sport touring range.  Variety such as the CBR1000XX, VTR1000, CB1300/S plus the VFR800 and ST1300.  The VFR1200 has been a sales disaster and I'm not interested in crossing the continent fully loaded, 2 up on a VFR800.

It appears the CBF1000 is being marketed as the main tourer for Asia.
But the Pan European is still on the Asian website.
Though the attraction to sheep is a bit weird 
The Blackbird was a stonker CBR1100XX but not many places one can ride at 200km/hr+
I don't want to spend $40G on a huge GL1800 - fullstop
And I agree touring two up on an 800 is just painful 

I will be keeping mine in good condition for a few more years yet.
And when I get old and need to slow down I'll go buy a Harley 

Buy a Harley Ren, and you'll get to have a personal relationship with each and every service station. 

[Tackleberry]

Buy a Harley Ren, and you'll get to have a personal relationship with each and every service station. 

 
That's with the mechanic and not the bowser.  

At least you get an extra vehicle with the ute they throw in to recover it.

[rendog]

Buy a Harley Ren, and you'll get to have a personal relationship with each and every service station. 

 
That's with the mechanic and not the bowser.  

At least you get an extra vehicle with the ute they throw in to recover it.

Oh ... oh ... you two are really no help at all 
But just to confirm, Harley riders up here are
ute driving, spanner swinging, fuel guzzling bogans ?   
Quickest way to slow down - buy a Harley 

[Sabie]

Buy a Harley Ren, and you'll get to have a personal relationship with each and every service station. 

 
That's with the mechanic and not the bowser.  

At least you get an extra vehicle with the ute they throw in to recover it.

Oh ... oh ... you two are really no help at all 
But just to confirm, Harley riders up here are
ute driving, spanner swinging, fuel guzzling bogans ?   
Quickest way to slow down - buy a Harley 

And here I was trying to be really supportive to a Brother ST owner..... "No help at all" what a slap in the face with a wet dish....Trish...mish... Something like that, it was wet anyway...

And Tackleberry was just being.....Tackleberry......

If you really want to find a replacement for the ST that makes a statement.... Buy a Ural.......

[alans1100]

...what's a VFR800 then

Looking at the VFR 800 on the website suggests it only a single seater. Also rather more a sport bike than a tourer.

[rendog]

If you really want to find a replacement for the ST that makes a statement.... Buy a Ural.......

Is there a dealer in Townsville ? 

[Sabie]

If you really want to find a replacement for the ST that makes a statement.... Buy a Ural.......

Is there a dealer in Townsville ? 

Actually there is..
Townsville Sidecars
Subsidiary of RHD Classic Supplies and Services
9/29 Casey St, Aitkenvale QLD 4814
Ph: 0407 147 247 (Daylight hours only)


But DON'T DO IT.......

[rendog]

Hmmm,

Biggles goggles   - check
Scarf                  - check
Leather skull cap - check
Russian accent    - might need help with that one 

Maybe a direct import might be the answer 

[Sabie]

dasvidaniya Rendog

ваши в Австралии, Вы дурак, вам не нужно говорить на русском языке

[STeveo]

The URAL Importer lives in Kentucky (near Armidale) and is a real nice bloke and passionate about his bikes, but remember if you really want one that they are flat out at 110km/h down hill solo. They would no doubt do that for years without trouble, but 80km/h is about thier crusing speed. Good thing for transversing the 'steeps', but too slow for Aussie highways.

 

[rendog]

The URAL Importer lives in Kentucky (near Armidale) and is a real nice bloke and passionate about his bikes, but remember if you really want one that they are flat out at 110km/h down hill solo. They would no doubt do that for years without trouble, but 80km/h is about thier crusing speed. Good thing for transversing the 'steeps', but too slow for Aussie highways.

No we aren't being serious STeveo
We're just filling the internet up with s%$^
Geez Sabie, we are in Australia so there's no need to speak in Russian 

BTW: I've found top secret photos of a test pilot on the next touring model 

[Sabie]

The URAL Importer lives in Kentucky (near Armidale) and is a real nice bloke and passionate about his bikes, but remember if you really want one that they are flat out at 110km/h down hill solo. They would no doubt do that for years without trouble, but 80km/h is about thier crusing speed. Good thing for transversing the 'steeps', but too slow for Aussie highways.

No we aren't being serious STeveo
We're just filling the internet up with s%$^
Geez Sabie, we are in Australia so there's no need to speak in Russian 

BTW: I've found top secret photos of a test pilot on the next touring model 

Sorry Ren, mate I thought I was speaking slowly.....

Wow a mobile Pannier..... Where's the rest of the bike?

[Sabie]

dasvidaniya Rendog

ваши в Австралии, Вы дурак, вам не нужно говорить на русском языке

Translation..

your in Australia, you fool, you do not need to speak in Russian