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Honda ST1300 Section => Seats & Windscreen Modifications ST1300 => Topic started by: doggy & Nola on January 18, 2013, 10:21:51 PM
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do Sheepskin make a big difference?
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A decent sheepskin is just one strategy to make the OEM seat a little more comfortable, and yes it does make a difference. Another tip to improve the OEM seat is to set the front adjustment on the middle setting, and force the rear onto the lowest setting. This has the effect of tilting the seat back a little and making it sit flatter. With the sheepskin and the tilt, I no loner feel the need to have the seat reshaped.
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I have a customs seat on the ST1100, and the sheep skin has completed the picture for me, stops any sliding, and Teela loves it for the added comfort
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Yeah, I've found that a sheepskin takes the 'harshness' out of an OEM seat and I agree with 'StinkyPete' on the setting.
Another thing I've found with the sheepskin is that it 'seals' the area/gap between the seat and tank. I used to ride around on the dept 1300 and want to pour a glass of cold water down the front of my jocks (I'm sure you guys will be familiar with that sensation), however riding my own 1300, with fitted sheepskin, I've never suffered the same experience.
Verdict.............. Highly recommended
Poppy :wht13
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I have a customs seat on the ST1100, and the sheep skin has completed the picture for me, stops any sliding, and Teela loves it for the added comfort
I'll echo what Streak's comment except that we have a goat skin and I have Heather who feels the same as Teela does in regards to the seat.
It's definite bonus on the longer rides we are prone to do from time to time.
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Sheepskin, seat setting as stated and Airhawks for both seams to work for us.....
cheers
Chris
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are the seat covers custom fitted / made .or can you buy them ? :eek
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Mine is from the Good wool store.....had it made with a extra 20mm in the side height to allow for the Airhawks seats beneath, the Airhawks may work a little better on top of the seat.....but then that presented a theft issue to the Airhawks....so under the sheepskin they go with good effect.
Cheers
Chris
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thank you Chris
do Airhawks seats strap to seat ?
cheers doggy
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thanks for the input
Alan .Poppy Dave. Graham .StinkyPete
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Yep....elastic straps x2 from the Airhawk around your seat and reattached to the hawk.....take a little playing around with to get the air content correct.....generally just a little is all that's needed.
Cheers
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I've found airhawks and sheepskins useful on crook seats but IMHO it's probably cheaper and more effective in the long run to go to the local auto trimmer and get them to reshape the seat for you. Your butt will thank you!
Cheers.
Tony
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I put my Airhawk under the sheepie. That protects it, the bike looks better, and it's less likely to get pinched.
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As previously expressed, bend the rear locating lugs to drop the rear of the riders section of the seat. This should always be the first step in trying to make the OEM seat more tolerable. I found the custom sheepskin feels fantastic, but realistically, only extended the riding time by 15 minutes or so. It wasn't the solution on it's own. Unfortunately, I had the OEM reshaped before i learnt about the above 'trick'. Even reshaping didn't solve it for me. I now use an Airhawk, which once again isn't perfect, but I can pretty much stay on it all day. I would prefer a comfy seat without the Airhawk but for now it is extending my 'comfortable' riding time.
Cheers.
Skip.
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i just get discomfit after three or four days.
more from jock straps i think
mite try boxers.
your thoughts please
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If you don't change the jock strap for 3 or 4 days, well......
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mum told me they will last four days day one / back to front day two
inside out day three / back to front day four.
cheers doggy
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Lol I think we all have our ways to get out of discomfort....
I wear sports pants as it stops the Kevlar digging into me :thumb
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I tried lycra for protection from the Kevlar, but it got too snug for comfort. Back to the Y fronts.
Hopefully all this is helping the ladies as well, otherwise we're being sexist here... :popcorn
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I know that some long distance riders swear by this underwear. No seams to press into the skin around your delicates.
www.ldcomfort.com (http://www.ldcomfort.com)
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swear :thumb
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I know that some long distance riders swear by this underwear. No seams to press into the skin around your delicates.
[url=http://www.ldcomfort.com]www.ldcomfort.com[/url] ([url]http://www.ldcomfort.com[/url])
They don't look half bad either, here is what the website says about them:
THE ANSWER TO RIDING COMFORT
Not the same as any other garment on the market. Dual layer fabric transfers moisture to the outer layer and the inner layer keeps the skin dry. (No need for powders that clog up moisture transport and become abrasive to the skin when you wear this quality undergarment.)
4-way stretch fabric for a perfect fit. Anti-microbial properties, Seam free seating area. Relieves chaffing from outer garments, Special design prevents ride-ups or ride-downs. A ‘Roo-Fly’ for convenience at pit stops. Tested as 'perfect' for a ride of 10,636 miles in less than a week.
Packs small, washes easy, Dries fast, Comfortable in any weather, Multiple days of riding a breeze.
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/ee41e7e68f09f8b0dcc670e714106d65.jpg)
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I tried lycra for protection from the Kevlar, but it got too snug for comfort. Back to the Y fronts.
Hopefully all this is helping the ladies as well, otherwise we're being sexist here... :popcorn
Thanks for thinking of us Biggles.
My 2 bob worth, I have the standard seat on my 1100 and no dramas with comfort. For long trips I wear lycra leggings under the Draggin jeans to stop to Kevlar rubbing. I also find that g-strings are most comfortable as far as underwear goes for a long ride....
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I also find that g-strings are most comfortable as far as underwear goes for a long ride....
I just asked Teela if I could borrow one to test the theory, and for some reason I got a raised eyebrow, and a look of "there is something wrong with you" so I can't confirm your information yet...... :rofl
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:crackup :rofl :crackup :rofl
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Yes I have a pair of those LD comfort shorts I wear under my jeans yes they work really well and I have the head cap also for under my helmet keeps the sweat away
I can recommend them :thumb
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I also find that g-strings are most comfortable as far as underwear goes for a long ride....
Thanks for the hint Wendy. I tried it, but it didn't work for me. :o
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I used to ride around on the dept 1300 and want to pour a glass of cold water down the front of my jocks (I'm sure you guys will be familiar with that sensation), however riding my own 1300, with fitted sheepskin, I've never suffered the same experience.
Verdict.............. Highly recommended
Poppy
Poppy,
I'll have to look into something to seperate me from the tank, on the RTE on 19 Jan 13, on the return trip home, temp's were getting to 38-40, I was experiencing some very uncomfortable sensations from what I thought was the sun heating my black cargo's and burning the delecate parts of my thigh.
I stopped under a bridge on the Logan motorway, felt the tank and found it was this that was burning hot (on skin anyway). I could even feel the heat through my gloves from the tank.
I have the Corbin seat (extremely comfy) but need to protect me from the tank heat.
Rob.
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mum told me they will last four days day one / back to front day two
inside out day three / back to front day four.
cheers doggy
Inside out is fine, but back to front Jock Straps!!!! :eek :eek
Certainly not good insulation for heat!
I also find that g-strings are most comfortable as far as underwear goes for a long ride....
Thanks for the hint Wendy. I tried it, but it didn't work for me. :o
StinkyPete, maybe you and Doggy need to get together and work out if G-Strings are comfortable back to front :grin
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I used to ride around on the dept 1300 and want to pour a glass of cold water down the front of my jocks (I'm sure you guys will be familiar with that sensation), however riding my own 1300, with fitted sheepskin, I've never suffered the same experience.
Verdict.............. Highly recommended
Poppy
Poppy,
I'll have to look into something to seperate me from the tank, on the RTE on 19 Jan 13, on the return trip home, temp's were getting to 38-40, I was experiencing some very uncomfortable sensations from what I thought was the sun heating my black cargo's and burning the delecate parts of my thigh.
I stopped under a bridge on the Logan motorway, felt the tank and found it was this that was burning hot (on skin anyway). I could even feel the heat through my gloves from the tank.
I have the Corbin seat (extremely comfy) but need to protect me from the tank heat.
Rob.
I had the same problem with the tank getting burning hot on my 04 ST1300.
The issue was fixed by installing a Bagster Tank cover.
It is a leather like cover with padding on the sides where your legs touch the tank. This stops the heat getting to you... oh and you can attach tank bags to the cover :eek :grin
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w435/ShineyOzSTOC/HeliBars%20Riser%20Install/photo1.jpg)
They are a bit pricy but worth it :thumbs :thumbsup
Ausie supplier:
http://www.aussiebiker.com.au/catalog.php?category=Bagster (http://www.aussiebiker.com.au/catalog.php?category=Bagster)
Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BAGSTER-BAGLUX-TANK-COVER-PROTECTOR-FOR-HONDA-ST-1300-PAN-EUROPEAN-DARK-BLUE-/180751716172?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2a15a44f4c (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BAGSTER-BAGLUX-TANK-COVER-PROTECTOR-FOR-HONDA-ST-1300-PAN-EUROPEAN-DARK-BLUE-/180751716172?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2a15a44f4c)
Or pick your colour
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=bagster%20st1300&LH_PrefLoc=2&_sop=15 (http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=bagster%20st1300&LH_PrefLoc=2&_sop=15)
Cheers
Shiney
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I can back Shiney up on that score. The tank cover is excellent in many ways. It only becomes a liability when you need to raise the tank, because the front strap goes under the steering head and it's a pain to get the buckle done up on reassembly.
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really dislike the OEM seat.
I tried it with Goodwool sheep skin, with and without air hawk, on and underneath the sheepskin and all combinations... found no comfort as always pinching my inner thighs and pushing me foward to the tank, even with setting as described previously.
I took the bike (ST1300) to a local coach trimer Alan at OZTRIM, 03-98702747 in Ringwood and for < $100, he sculpted, sanded, glued and modified the seat.
now I sit in the seat not on it and its much better. Still not a long day seat imho but much better than oem. :thumbs
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StinkyPete, maybe you and Doggy need to get together and work out if G-Strings are comfortable back to front :grin
Perhaps a "Show and Tell" at Middleton! :butt :eek :law
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Not sure about wearing a G-string...I'll have to think about that some before I venture down that path, thoughts of what the ambos might say should I get into a situation where I need them :crazy >:(). However I have in the past,when the weather has been bitterly cold, with snow and high winds, worn ladies tights under trousers. They are superb at keeping your legs warm. Something to think about under Kevlar jeans maybe? I haven't tried it yet but might come winter.
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Not sure about wearing a G-string...I'll have to think about that some before I venture down that path, thoughts of what the ambos might say should I get into a situation where I need them :crazy >:(). However I have in the past,when the weather has been bitterly cold, with snow and high winds, worn ladies tights under trousers. They are superb at keeping your legs warm. Something to think about under Kevlar jeans maybe? I haven't tried it yet but might come winter.
I suppose a Kevlar GString would be even harder to explain. I wear a pair of bike "nicks" under my Kelvar jeans (Draggin Sliks) as the Kevlar is fairly rough on the back part of my inner thighs, and I find the nicks really help in stopping severe chafing there, well somewhere in that area.
Funny you should mention the lady's tights, as my Great Uncle in France in WWI wore french ladies underwear and stockings after they found an abandoned hosiery factory (maybe somewhere near Pozieres?) and a heap of diggers kept relatively warm in the snow and slush by added to their under layers - true story. I think if I get some tights, I'll have to get them myself, as my wife would absolutely refuse to go in and ask for a pair in the size I'd take. I'd have to think how I might be able to obtain a pair that might fit too. How did you get yours Whizz?