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Title: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: ST2UP on June 17, 2013, 06:07:34 AM
So we are considering having our Earmoulds retro fitted with their speakers to then connect to our Bikercomm Bluetooth headsets. The change is being considered as Earmoulds are fantastic......a little to good and now the tunes in our head are just not loud enough from helmet speakers.

 The only option I can envisage at the moment is to use a 3.5 or 2.5mm 4 pole stereo plug male/female combo.

Cut the wires from headset unit to helmet speakers add female plug and more or less speaker wire as required, leaving helmet speakers in place may still be an option too, mount the plug up and under the B/T unit via mini zip ties ???

Trim the Earmould input speaker wire to as short as possible....REALLY want to avoid dangling speaker wires flapping about.....then Earmoulds plug into plug munted under B/T unit.

So has anyone done this....got pictures or feedback ??

Already spoke with Dale and got some questions answered.....just after more opinions before the side cutters come out.


Thanks gents  :thumb
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: Marcus on June 17, 2013, 08:40:58 AM
Brilliant, The Wife has been onto me about a solution to her iPhone earbuds constantly falling out...

Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: Brock on June 17, 2013, 10:23:24 AM
I have the ear mould speakers, just waiting for the Sena base with the stereo out leads to arrive

http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/sena-smh10-bluetooth-motorcycle-intercom/sena-smh10-3-5mm-audio-jack-microphone-clamp-unit (http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/sena-smh10-bluetooth-motorcycle-intercom/sena-smh10-3-5mm-audio-jack-microphone-clamp-unit)

Then I will have the complete setup for the bike to bike UHF ready to go
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: saaz on June 17, 2013, 11:45:37 AM
Here is a similar solution for the sena10. Tapping into the speaker wire may be less risky.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54109647/Sena%20SMH10.pdf
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: Sean on June 17, 2013, 06:14:09 PM
I've had a set of Earmold plugs for a while now.  The sound reproduction is great and they also cut down some of the wind noise. They cost a bit, but they work well. Hoping the tax cheque can help to sooth the pain for a Sena Bluetooth as when I plug the iPod into the jack for the Scala Rider FM the sound level drops off badly and you can barely hear it although the FM radio volume is great.

Strongly recommend them as the moulding makes it almost impossible to pull out when putting your lid on.

Sean  :thumbs
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: DaleMcLean on June 17, 2013, 08:02:25 PM
Tony
You wont be able to shorten the Earmould cable as pert of it is coiled air tube.

3 ways to connect tot eh BK-02 speaker wires

1, cut wires and solder 3,5mm stereo jack to them.
2, unplug wires to the speakers and "remake" to a 3.5mm jack replacing the speaker connectors.
3, send the headset wiring down and I do it  :thumb

the others are talking of other brands so links etc dont really apply
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: scarp on June 17, 2013, 10:18:02 PM
I've been thinking of getting the earmoulds as any Bud type ear phones fall out so the SENA goes unused as I don't like to ride without earplugs. Hey Brock who did yours?
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: Sean on June 17, 2013, 10:28:03 PM
Scarp,

The below agent is from over your way.

Regards

Sean  :thumb
 
Perth Metropolitan   
Mat and Angela Shipp
PROTEC HEARING 58 Foss St,  Bicton W.A. 6157 
Mobile: 0433 164 774
Website: www.protec-hearing.com (http://www.protec-hearing.com)
Email: protechearingwa@gmail.com
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: Brock on June 17, 2013, 10:34:11 PM
Protec hearing

http://protec-hearing.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27&Itemid=47 (http://protec-hearing.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27&Itemid=47)

Not cheap, but quick and efficient. The plugs work well, better than foam earplugs and the audio is pretty good. I always wear ear plugs (unless I forget) so speakers are not as effective. Now I have noise reduction and good sound quality.
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: scarp on July 11, 2013, 10:12:31 PM
Thanks Guys got a booking with him on Wed 17th He's away ATM looking forward to it
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: Pocket STocker on July 11, 2013, 10:20:22 PM
Just had mine made and WOW what a difference.

Pockey  :thumb
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: Streak on July 11, 2013, 10:30:11 PM
Teela and I are getting ours in the next week or so, think they will be fantastic! Everyone who has them says so!
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: Abe on August 25, 2013, 09:07:53 AM
Got my earmoulds done by:-

Helen Johnstone
6/67 Alexander Rd, Taren Point, NSW
0411 86989

www.customearmolds.com.au (http://www.customearmolds.com.au)

$240.00 (no volume control)

Great service and nothing was a problem.

(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q791/vegapup/de703822-4f6a-4532-8b31-59c89b85b259_zpscc34c01c.jpg) (http://s1359.photobucket.com/user/vegapup/media/de703822-4f6a-4532-8b31-59c89b85b259_zpscc34c01c.jpg.html)

Spliced a 3.5mm stereo (1/8") socket into the existing bikecomm Hola-S (from Dale)

(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q791/vegapup/2697690e-675c-4a40-8842-f763c16d6824_zps818b72bf.jpg) (http://s1359.photobucket.com/user/vegapup/media/2697690e-675c-4a40-8842-f763c16d6824_zps818b72bf.jpg.html)

(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q791/vegapup/d9efe398-92b1-4b4f-9398-35f29cfb6359_zpsa97a34b0.jpg) (http://s1359.photobucket.com/user/vegapup/media/d9efe398-92b1-4b4f-9398-35f29cfb6359_zpsa97a34b0.jpg.html)

Note: I do get a slight/low interference noise at the moment, not bad, but will investigate.

Music and GPS (tomtom, thanks ST2up) sounds clear and crisp, very happy.

Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: ST2UP on August 25, 2013, 09:34:19 AM
Very Noooice mate.......the little noise your getting ?? Is it when the iPhone is charging ??


Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: Abe on August 25, 2013, 09:42:39 AM
No, it happens all the time.

Walk away from the phone and any other electrical device and I still get that sound.

Cheers
Dave

Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: ST2UP on August 25, 2013, 12:00:00 PM
We have a little hum in ours aswell, now more noticeable with Earmoulds.......but seams to come from having the iPod plugged into power.......but with music playing even on the quietest setting it is not noticeable......did similar to you with mounting the stereo plug.



(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q717/ST2UP/10e911c5b057149226a08d9f39b7ab4d_zpsd875d279.jpg)
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: saaz on August 25, 2013, 12:42:42 PM
I have a ground loop hum in my bike powered system that I need to fix up sometime by putting in a ground loop isolator.  An isolated music lead should fix up the problem, but Dale will have a better idea.
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: Abe on August 25, 2013, 12:52:47 PM
I think that is the problem Saaz.

Jaycar has one, but the size and hiding location inside the helmet and keeping the helmets integrity may be an issue??

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=AA3086 (http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=AA3086)

Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: Abe on August 25, 2013, 01:00:12 PM
ST2UP, I placed my 3.5mm socket downwards only to minimise water ingress when ear moulds aren't used (local riding)
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: ST2UP on August 25, 2013, 01:10:57 PM
ST2UP, I placed my 3.5mm socket downwards only to minimise water ingress when ear moulds aren't used (local riding)

Yep gotcha.....good plan  :thumb
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: Abe on August 25, 2013, 01:13:16 PM
Side issue, Helen does the earmoulds for a few car racers, just did Mr & Mrs Tander (OK, Garth a V8 Supercar driver, Holden)

And, I'm watching the V8's and listerning through my new earmoulds and sounds great.
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: saaz on August 25, 2013, 01:19:59 PM
Are the speakers still working when using the earmolds?  Might be feeding in some interference.
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: Abe on August 25, 2013, 01:30:35 PM
Good question Saaz,  I did drop the bikecomm speakers out of the helmet and I was still getting that interference
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: ST2UP on August 25, 2013, 01:38:05 PM
We use ours off the bike aswell......Pockey when running at home on the treadmill, I use mine mowing and on the cycle trainer.

 :beer
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: saaz on August 25, 2013, 04:47:44 PM
I did a ride today with no earplugs (duathlon support, taking a technical official around so needed to hear) and it was so noisy. I can't see how I have spent so many years with no decent earplugs. Getting sound in is just a bonus.
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: Abe on September 01, 2013, 08:22:00 PM
UPDATE:-

Plugs needed adjusting after an 1 hour of riding to get the "sweet" spot in the ear canal (only minor discomfort) this will come with time.
Removed plugs completely as I found I was over revving the engine on take offand changing gear as I could not hear the engine rev's.
Also, I do like to hear the sound of the 1100 through the Staintunes, however I still listen to music/phone through the Bikecomm system already fitted into the helmet.

Having said that I have used the earmoulds whilst grinding metal/mowing lawns/drilling concrete and are more then impressed.

Earmoulds for "me" are more suited to Freeway riding, not local riding.
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: Brock on September 01, 2013, 08:26:20 PM
Interesting, but I have had no discomfort, or problems with taking off..
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: Abe on September 01, 2013, 08:32:31 PM
Brock hopefully I will be the same one day.  I have just got mine and that was my first ride with them.
I think it is something I need to get used too and adjust accordingly.
Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: ST2UP on September 01, 2013, 08:45:08 PM
UPDATE:-

Plugs needed adjusting after an 1 hour of riding to get the "sweet" spot in the ear canal (only minor discomfort) this will come with time.
Removed plugs completely as I found I was over revving the engine on take offand changing gear as I could not hear the engine rev's.
Also, I do like to hear the sound of the 1100 through the Staintunes, however I still listen to music/phone through the Bikecomm system already fitted into the helmet.

Having said that I have used the earmoulds whilst grinding metal/mowing lawns/drilling concrete and are more then impressed.

Earmoulds for "me" are more suited to Freeway riding, not local riding.

Good report Amigo.....we ruv ours but don't do commuting, so leaving the speakers helmet was a good call mate ??

Title: Re: Speaker Earmoulds to B/T headset
Post by: saaz on September 01, 2013, 09:22:43 PM
I have the opposite problem. When on the few times I ride without the earplugs (say for doing triathlon support when I need to hear the tech official on the back) everything seems so noisy and my ears do not like that much anymore.  I tend to put the ear plugs in for even the short rides.