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Farkles, Gear & Accessories => Farkles and Gear General Section => Topic started by: ST2UP on April 16, 2015, 09:17:47 PM
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So I'm Farkling again much to the credit cards screams of protest....
We purchased a few years ago a Third Gear magnetic tank bag from eBay as a trial and that did the job very well. We then aquired another Oxford magnetic that didn't quiet tick all the boxes.....we use the tank bag with success on longer rides and touring and now want to change around the bag setup for some future IBA rides in mind in addition to touring duties.
We have always been acutely aware of the Magnetic bag and laying it back on the seat so as not to collect a piece of blue metal from the gravel and turn the tanks finish into many tears, it's only a matter of time before Yuk !! Happens :'(
The tank Bag I selected was a Givi XS 308 with the Locking ring system for attachment to the tank....the bag is a 20ltr expandable with detachable bum bag, waterproof cover, clear removable map/iPad pouch, and most of all....Doesn't touch the tank ;-*
But naturally there is a catch......this bag is not a recommended fitment for the ST1300, in fact none of the XS Bags in the Italian GIVI range are..... :nahnah
But I see this as a "Hardly a challenge for a trained man" moment and bought it any way.....so watch now how the modification to this bag to offset the locking ring and make the GiVI XS308 Tank bag become ST1300 friendly WOW:
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q717/ST2UP/c944ff547912d1dda6f8af6ee02479f6_zpsqjlmvwd9.jpg)
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q717/ST2UP/4eee9e41f69bcb679388ebfc24cc64b1_zpsjrtjsfc9.jpg)
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Interested to see how this goes. I tried the 5 ltr Givi and it was OK untill I put the MCL riser block on then it fouled the bars.
The problem is the tank filler is too far forward.
Jacinta is happy because it fits the CF Moto perfectly.
:popcorn
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I have bought the bag back about 100mm because of this very issue Graham.....just waiting for the paint to dry and then post some pics etc ;-*
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We have always been acutely aware of the Magnetic bag and laying it back on the seat so as not to collect a piece of blue metal from the gravel and turn the tanks finish into many tears, it's only a matter of time before Yuk !! Happens :'(
Can confirm that happens...
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We have always been acutely aware of the Magnetic bag and laying it back on the seat so as not to collect a piece of blue metal from the gravel and turn the tanks finish into many tears, it's only a matter of time before Yuk !! Happens :'(
Can confirm that happens...
You showed me at Toowoomba :OldMan......My credit card debt is on you now buddy ;-*
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clicks the "like" button... oh wait...
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clicks the "like" button... oh wait...
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its this'in button :like
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So here is the finished product.....bag is now mounted 100mm back from where it would normally be mounted, mounting conventional resulted in as expected very limited....well NO range of movement for the bars.
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q717/ST2UP/fd936afc6222d4a534c331ea6bb2237d_zpswns9shaw.jpg)
The adaptor plate is an old aluminium road sign that was acquired and cut to shape :whistle
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q717/ST2UP/63c811aac66f6223ebc76d84447214cf_zpsylkxv1rw.jpg)
The mounting ring is mounted to the tank filler lid in the conventional manner....I removed the opposing locking ring from the bag :popcorn
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q717/ST2UP/549aa172e2aa66fafc883f1fa6f34fa1_zps8liy1yzy.jpg) Ohh and that not a scratch in my tank in the pic :Stirpot
The plate was made just a little wider than the base of the bags own base using the same mounting holes that the locking ring would use.....plate was folded to allow the bag to sweep back with the angle of the tank...sanded the alloy back to bright, eitched, and 2 top coats.....locking ring mounted 100mm forward of its traditional position and all sorted :like
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q717/ST2UP/f5fa51ec7d1f53adef2f1c3c3c2485ba_zpsdgcpkhm3.jpg)
If the adaptor plate works out I will remove and powder coat, if the design is sound but the alloy a little to flexible I will use it as a template and make the adaptor plate from stainless steel.
So we see how it goes :popcorn
Bars now have a full range of movement....just ;-*
:beer
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fill it with heavy crap and see how much gap you still have under it, and if all that crap puts unwanted pressure on the mount
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fill it with heavy crap and see how much gap you still have under it, and if all that crap puts unwanted pressure on the mount
It shouldn't sag as the shape of the bag comes from an internal plastic structural frame ;-*
Tank bag only gets the light stuff.....gloves, caps, sunscreen, snacks, sunnies etc.....wouldn't exeed a kilo all up.....the item that does sneak up on you that adds weight is loose change so we have found :crackup
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clever, well done :clap
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fill it with heavy crap and see how much gap you still have under it, and if all that crap puts unwanted pressure on the mount
It shouldn't sag as the shape of the bag comes from an internal plastic structural frame ;-*
Tank bag only gets the light stuff.....gloves, caps, sunscreen, snacks, sunnies etc.....wouldn't exeed a kilo all up.....the item that does sneak up on you that adds weight is loose change so we have found :crackup
Pics or it didn't happen
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Looks very good. Since it sits clear of the tank, my concern would be the potential for it to bounce and thus mark the tank. Otherwise, I love the simple locking system, which is not using magnets or straps.
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Looks great mate :like
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Looks a very good attachment system with quick attachment and release . . I think I would put some clear plastic protection on the tank to guard against possible scratches . . . Done very neatly of course so that it looked good/hardly noticeable even when tank bag was not being used . .
Well done Chris . .
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fill it with heavy crap and see how much gap you still have under it, and if all that crap puts unwanted pressure on the mount
It shouldn't sag as the shape of the bag comes from an internal plastic structural frame ;-*
Tank bag only gets the light stuff.....gloves, caps, sunscreen, snacks, sunnies etc.....wouldn't exeed a kilo all up.....the item that does sneak up on you that adds weight is loose change so we have found :crackup
Pics or it didn't happen
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Here you go Marcus....just for you mate.
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q717/ST2UP/ab3545ce3a905fbe876d6c01c8bf77c6_zpspl8a8v89.jpg)
And may I add it was a painful experience..... as I was working and couldn't partake in any of the 6pack of crownies :fp
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And may I add it was a painful experience..... as I was working and couldn't partake in any of the 6pack of crownies :fp
Haha thanks, and I'm sorry I had to put you through that very traumatic experience
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For anyone with a Bagster tank cover i can recommend buying a Topsellerie tank bag.
Because it is designed to sit further back,it does not interfere with the steering at all.
Delivered from England for AUD110 including postage.
The shots are full lock both sides.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/greeneyedmonster1/20150420_152327.jpg~original)
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/greeneyedmonster1/20150420_152428.jpg~original)
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It looks awesome mate :thumbsup
What site did you order it from?
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It was an ebay jobbie-last one,on sale & just happened to be blue.
It is the older style,nothing fancy but here's the specs :
Heavy Duty Zips - Stronger Fittings
Expandable 38 litre capacity
Dimensions; 46cm long x 36cm wide x 21-31cm high
Carrying Handle
Detachable Shoulder Strap - Map Pocket
Rain Cover
Made from Sturdy Fabric Backed PVC
Google Top Sellerie Estival tank bag & see how ya go mate :grin
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fill it with heavy crap and see how much gap you still have under it, and if all that crap puts unwanted pressure on the mount
It shouldn't sag as the shape of the bag comes from an internal plastic structural frame ;-*
Tank bag only gets the light stuff.....gloves, caps, sunscreen, snacks, sunnies etc.....wouldn't exeed a kilo all up.....the item that does sneak up on you that adds weight is loose change so we have found :crackup
Pics or it didn't happen
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Here you go Marcus....just for you mate.
([url]http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q717/ST2UP/ab3545ce3a905fbe876d6c01c8bf77c6_zpspl8a8v89.jpg[/url])
And may I add it was a painful experience..... as I was working and couldn't partake in any of the 6pack of crownies :fp
Ice you :cuss you forgot the weight of the ice and a drain hole in the bottom :eek Dontyou let them Crownies get warm :eek :wink1 :grin :grin :Stirpot
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I had thought about the Ice but had 2 issues.... :think1
1. Getting Ice on the road and only using half a bag is just waste, waste, waste....
2. The drain hole presents a numbing issue.... which nurry to snap freeze :think1
So new plan is to mount a Danfoss 35 refrigeration compressor into the remainder of the Tank bag...reduces capacity :think1 but now need to fit a Deepcycle battery and 100watt solar panel.....looks like another farkling weekend ahead of me :well
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Just remove the curling wand, curling iron & hair straighter and you will have plenty of room for the compressor in the back --- Simples.