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Gear Lever
« on: March 05, 2016, 11:48:50 AM »
The gear lever on my 2011 ST1300 won't ...... lever this is!!

Out for a short ride to Whittlesea this AM to meet some of my / our Ulysses colleagues, and my gear lever stopped levering, the gear shifter stopped shifting - stuck in 3rd gear. 

Limped home, parked in garage, on to centre stand, LH lower fairing off.  Still pretty dark in there (a torch helped), very tight, no room for hands or even a good look, but it seems like the lever system has been disconnected between items 4 and 5 in this diagram.



This from a link provided by Saaz (RIP) for 2003 - 2004 model ST1300's. 

Any clues or advice from others on this matter, eg:
*  Do you think I'm on the right track? 
*  Is some thing broken in there or 4 and 5 just separated
*  Do I keep pulling off side panels for a better look, next one look like the panel that the pillion foot rest is mounted on, this means also removing the tow bar or at least part of it?
*  Am I off-track altogether, sans the tow bar?
*  Do I pack back together and take it to the dealer?
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Re: Gear Lever
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2016, 11:57:04 AM »
The rod ends are known to occasionally get stiff. (item 4) pull them off and give them a good lube (lithium grease should do the trick).

While the rod end is off, try the gear lever for free movement.
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Re: Gear Lever
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2016, 12:12:07 PM »
The rod ends are known to occasionally get stiff. (item 4) pull them off and give them a good lube (lithium grease should do the trick).

While the rod end is off, try the gear lever for free movement.


Don't think it's stiff, the outer lever just floats around, floppy like.

Perhaps it was stiff, and little to much effort on my part caused it to come adrift.  Didn't seem stiff before though, although now thinking back there was one very firm "clunk" when selecting 1st gear at an earlier stop.

Looks like I'll have to remove this panel to get a good look.




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Re: Gear Lever
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2016, 01:08:19 PM »
The crank has not come of the spline on the shaft where it exits the crankcase. This is on the lower rear right hand side of the engine and you dont need to remove any plastic to see it. If that link is not on the gear lever feels floppy and it obviously will stay in the last gear which was selected.
 
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Re: Gear Lever
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2016, 01:12:07 PM »
I have removed the oil filter to get a better view and discovered it's come adrift between 5 and 18.  Bloody damn hell poop, it's awkward in there.
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Re: Gear Lever
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2016, 01:55:17 PM »
I have removed the oil filter to get a better view and discovered it's come adrift between 5 and 18.  Bloody damn hell poop, it's awkward in there.

Sounds like an easy fix........ Nicely done
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Re: Gear Lever
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2016, 02:03:33 PM »
I have removed the oil filter to get a better view and discovered it's come adrift between 5 and 18.  Bloody damn hell poop, it's awkward in there.

Sounds like an easy fix........ Nicely done

I wish, 40 minutes to get the turnbuckle (I think that's the right term) on and tighten two 10mm lock nuts.  Hope the gear lever is in the correct position, can't test it until I start the motor, can't do that until I put on a new oil filter and replace the oil, then I can't access the top lock nut.

Grrrrrrr!!!!!!!
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Re: Gear Lever
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2016, 11:49:35 AM »
All back together, test run ....... well okay, gear lever a little higher than I would like, will see how it goes, if I can't get use to it, oil drain, filter 'off', adjust turn buckle, replace oil / filter, might wait until next scheduled change.

Problem was the little lock nuts (13 and 18 in diagram) coming loose, turn buckle came adrift.



I got lock nut 13 very tight, lock nut 18 was very hard to get to and a little more than finger tight.  I figure if 13 is very tight, turn buckle (am I using the correct term for the threaded rod with a clockwise thread one end, and an anti-clockwise thread the other end?) will not rotate and 18 or the thread that screws into 5 will not come loose, and all should be well.

Please, tell me my theory is sound, I'll let you know if it is in practice .......... in due course.
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Re: Gear Lever
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2016, 12:02:12 PM »
Not sure if it can be done, but you may be able to take the whole assembly out and tighten the nuts. Then put it back. The rod ends just press back back on to the ball ends.
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Re: Gear Lever
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2016, 12:07:56 PM »
Not sure if it can be done, but you may be able to take the whole assembly out and tighten the nuts. Then put it back. The rod ends just press back back on to the ball ends.

I'll look at that option if I need to.  But I forecast that getting 4 and 5 apart, then back together will be a real problem.  There isn't enough room in there for my hands and fingers (which ain't large compared to some of yuse blokes).
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Re: Gear Lever
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2016, 02:51:59 PM »
There's some instructions here with adjusting pedal height after fitting a MCL Peg Lowering Kit - not sure if it will help but no harm in looking   http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?8940-ST1300-MCL-Peg-Lowering-Kit&highlight=adjust%20shifter
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