Headlights on

[mr2u]

Just a quick question.
Whats the rule with "Headlights On" in WA. Is it a compulsory thing, or a (smart) Choice.
The reason i ask, i have a 1300P and have removed the screw that stops you from turning them off. This is so if i need the ignition on, motor off, i don,t flatten the battery.


Mr2u

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[Biggles]

ON by law, Australia-wide.  Sorrio.  There was a campaign in NSW and VIC a few years ago opposing the law, but it lost.  Dunno why they had a problem with it, myself.  A Volvo experiment years ago proved lights on effectively reduced head-on crashes.

[Gadget]

I believe the answer is somewhere in ADR 55.

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2006L02302

[Biggles]

I believe the answer is somewhere in ADR 55.

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2006L02302

Hmm.  This Australian Design Rule (ADR)  actually prescribes the photometric requirements for headlamps which are provided for motor cycles.  I can't find a reference to their being lit.

[Gadget]

I believe the answer is somewhere in ADR 55.

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2006L02302

Hmm.  This Australian Design Rule (ADR)  actually prescribes the photometric requirements for headlamps which are provided for motor cycles.  I can't find a reference to their being lit.

I didn't have time to read it all and couldn't search it well on the phone.

[Sicman]

  I don't know why manufacturers don't just set up all vehicles with headlights on. Its way safer. I can give an example to support that.
In the 90's, when I worked for Telstra, they were a self insurer, i.e didn't use insurance companies. They decided to order all their company vehicles, and lease vehicles, with the "headlights always on" feature.
That one little change reduced their accident rate by 50% that year saving them millions in vehicle repairs and reducing the number of injured staff who required compensation. 

[Brock]

What screw can be removed to allow lights to be turned off????

There isnt a switch fitted to turn lights on or off, only high or low beam.

[Shiney]

On my new there is a switch that turns the headlight on and off.

[mr2u]

Not sure if the link will work, stolen from another page.
http://my-mc-phoenix.com/my_mc/images/1/75376.jpg

But this is the switch block and there was a small self tapper inserted under the toggle (5) to prevent it from being turned off.

The ADR talks about type, and placement and so on but nothing about if they are "Required by Law" to be on all the time.

Some new bikes do not have the option to turn off, Some have been modified like mine. Have i broken the Law by removing this Screw is what i really want to know.

20 Years ago i was part of the movement to encourage ALL fellow riders to turn "Headlights On", I will always RIDE with it on, i just want the option to turn it of while working on it.

Mr2u
 

[Down Under]

My understanding is that it is not compulsory for a motorcycle to have its headlight hardwired to the ignition and therefore be on during the daytime.

ADR 19/01 introduced in 1992 made it compulsory for motorcycle headlamps to be hardwired to the ignition but was repealed in 1997 and replaced by ADR 19/02 so the use of a headlamp on low beam for motorcycles during daylight hours is optional.

It is still a requirement in many other countries to have m/cycle headlamps hardwired so we just have them imported that way. 

To be on the safe side check with your local traffic authority.

[alans1100]

My understanding is that it is not compulsory for a motorcycle to have its headlight hardwired to the ignition and therefore be on during the daytime.

ADR 19/01 introduced in 1992 made it compulsory for motorcycle headlamps to be hardwired to the ignition but was repealed in 1997 and replaced by ADR 19/02 so the use of a headlamp on low beam for motorcycles during daylight hours is optional.

It is still a requirement in many other countries to have m/cycle headlamps hardwired so we just have them imported that way. 

To be on the safe side check with your local traffic authority.

You just got in before me.

[West Aussie Glen]

I could switch the headlight off on The Nevermind Tours Royal Enfield I rode on Sunday.

[STeveo]

Some of mine have an 'off' switch for the headlight. Last two I bought  (2013 and 2015) have off switches.  I still ride with the light on, even if I have to manually turn it on.
Glen, what did you think of the Enfield?

[West Aussie Glen]

Some of mine have an 'off' switch for the headlight. Last two I bought  (2013 and 2015) have off switches.  I still ride with the light on, even if I have to manually turn it on.
Glen, what did you think of the Enfield?

pm sent

[Gadget]

ADR 19/02

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2005L04012

[STeveo]

Some of mine have an 'off' switch for the headlight. Last two I bought  (2013 and 2015) have off switches.  I still ride with the light on, even if I have to manually turn it on.
Glen, what did you think of the Enfield?

pm sent

Thanks.

[Brock]

Ah, Mr2u, that switch block, is a police switch assy. Some one has done a mod to use the 5 switch as a headlight switch.

Normaly, the 5 switch is used to supply power to the siren amp and radio package. Also putting in a screw is far from normal.

[ruSTynutz]

Just found this thread which was handy as I was gonna ask the question as to whether the police ST had a on/off headlight switch.
From reading this thread it would seem so...

I've often wondered how hard it would be to have an on/off switch put in...now I'm wondering what my chances are of picking up a "police" switch block and swapping things over...Hmmm... 

[Brock]

The police bikes have the switch, but its not used for lights but the strobes and siren. Headlights are on all the time, except for crank.

[ruSTynutz]

Thanks for the info, Brock!

Bit confused though as Pete said his turns the headlight on and off... :/

It would probably be cheaper and easier to just mount an extra switch to turn off the headlight... :/

I'll add it to my list of things to do one day... 

[Yorkie]

On my 1100 I installed a relay in the light circuit operated by the side stand switch, stand down headlight off, stand up light on.

[ruSTynutz]

Thanks for that, Yorkie...I really want to be able to ride with the headlight off though...

[Bodø]

Thanks for that, Yorkie...I really want to be able to ride with the headlight off though...

Why?  Personally I have the lights on regardless of what I am riding/driving, hail or shine, or time of day.  Many signs around rural South Australia say "see and be seen" and I tend to agree.

[ruSTynutz]

Why? Because at certain times I believe it can actually be safer... 

[Bodø]

How so?