Author Topic: More fuel in on the centre stand or side stand? Results in... (Read 12416 times)

Diesel · « **on:** September 28, 2011, 11:02:50 AM »

I read a while back that someone on a ST1300 finally did the test, and, it would seem... PROPERLY!

He conducted the test by filling the ST's tank right up to the base of the filler hole (being a PARTICULAR level to monitor the results from), then replaced the petrol tank cap, immediately put the ST on its centre stand, opened the petrol/gas tank and put more fuel in 2 ounces at a time until the petrol/gas level was back up to the base of the filler hole.

THE RESULTS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
He was able to put in 300ml !!!!!!!!!!
That equates to: 5 mins riding @ 100km/h! or;
approx 8km @ 50mpg!

Okay - reality check time....

this is probably only of any use if your ST is on her last breath on the Nullabor or something like that.

There has been a lot of conjecture as to whether you go to the trouble of putting her on her centre stand to fill or not - well, it's all for 300ml, 5 minutes, or 8km on Hwy cycle!

Regards, Diesel

Marcus · « **Reply #1 on:** September 28, 2011, 11:33:15 AM »

Yeah I read that as well...and since then I've been filling up while sitting on the bike so that it's upright, Once full I'll then dismount onto the side stand

Diesel · « **Reply #2 on:** September 28, 2011, 12:12:41 PM »

Quote from: Marcus on September 28, 2011, 11:33:15 AM

Yeah I read that as well...and since then I've been filling up while sitting on the bike so that it's upright, Once full I'll then dismount onto the side stand

Haha! And they reckon you'll be cured of doing that the first time you spill fuel onto your groin and have to ride with that sort of burning pain and discomfort! Or worse - it catches fire!

JuST Peter · « **Reply #3 on:** September 28, 2011, 01:21:38 PM »

Quote from: Diesel on September 28, 2011, 12:12:41 PM

Quote from: Marcus on September 28, 2011, 11:33:15 AM
Yeah I read that as well...and since then I've been filling up while sitting on the bike so that it's upright, Once full I'll then dismount onto the side stand

Haha! And they reckon you'll be cured of doing that the first time you spill fuel onto your groin and have to ride with that sort of burning pain and discomfort! Or worse - it catches fire!

There's a song about that ;D ;D ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bB5xL577r4&ob=av3e

Brock · « **Reply #4 on:** September 28, 2011, 03:04:30 PM »

A lot of servos will kill the pump until you get off the bike, its not a place they want you to be if a fire should start.

Marcus · « **Reply #5 on:** September 29, 2011, 07:39:30 AM »

Quote from: Brock on September 28, 2011, 03:04:30 PM

A lot of servos will kill the pump until you get off the bike, its not a place they want you to be if a fire should start.

We you guys gotta ruin my great idea. :(

Now you got me nervous...I thought ignorance was bliss

Diesel · « **Reply #6 on:** September 29, 2011, 07:58:43 AM »

Quote from: Brock on September 28, 2011, 03:04:30 PM

We you guys gotta ruin my great idea. :(

Now you got me nervous...I thought ignorance was bliss

lol - each to their own Stringo - I just don't take out my "get the hell out of there quick if things go wrong" option.

On my recent SS1600, I filled the bike (to the brim) on its side stand and pulled out easy 453kms and 447kms fuel stops.

Cheers

West Aussie Glen · « **Reply #7 on:** September 29, 2011, 08:45:17 AM »

You have to get off the bike to pay for the petrol so why not get off at the beginning. I would think some of those service stations that won't turn the pump on until you are off the bike are as concerned about you doing a runner with out paying as they are about protecting the family jewels. I would also think that reaching over to get the hose would be asking to lose your balance. The thought of dropping the ST with the petrol tank open and the bowser hose in your hand is scary to say the least.

JuST Peter · « **Reply #8 on:** September 29, 2011, 08:33:18 PM »

I always make a point of getting off the bike, gloves off, putting the bike on the centre stand, before I reach for the hose. In my mind others, particularly the staff, will see I'm not going anywhere in a hurry.
I've never thought too much about getting more fuel in while the bike's upright, than on the side stand, as I climb back on more comfortably this way - I stand on the left foot peg, climb over, reset the trip meter, roll off the stand, start up and away I go.

Gavo · « **Reply #9 on:** October 03, 2011, 10:24:13 PM »

Yep im with you blueheeler straight onto center stand gloves off and a stretch

Brock · « **Reply #10 on:** October 03, 2011, 10:51:19 PM »

Mine stays on the side stand, the effort to get the bike on the centre stand isnt worth the extra distance. Besides I'm old and lazy

Malcolm6112 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 03, 2011, 11:08:26 PM »

Mine spends most of it's parked state on the centre stand. Makes it easy to check the basics. Oil, tyres and to wash the Blue STead before a ride.

Being a HONDA it only requires a wash., not like the other brand starting with H.

saaz · « **Reply #12 on:** October 04, 2011, 10:23:39 AM »

I have only filled mine on the sidestand, and if you are careful it seems to fill right up but make sure you are leaving soon as it may start overflowing ince it heats up. Usually I don't cram it really full as no need, as ther is a 450km plus range anyway. You save money by putting in less anyway :)

Biggles · « **Reply #13 on:** October 05, 2011, 03:55:31 PM »

Quote from: Diesel on September 28, 2011, 11:02:50 AM

I read a while back that someone on a ST1300 finally did the test, and, it would seem... PROPERLY!

He conducted the test by filling the ST's tank right up to the base of the filler hole (being a PARTICULAR level to monitor the results from), then replaced the petrol tank cap, immediately put the ST on its centre stand, opened the petrol/gas tank and put more fuel in 2 ounces at a time until the petrol/gas level was back up to the base of the filler hole.

THE RESULTS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
He was able to put in 300ml !!!!!!!!!!
That equates to: 5 mins riding @ 100km/h! or;
approx 8km @ 50mpg!

Okay - reality check time....
Regards, Diesel

I wrote somewhere that I had seen a figure of 2 litres quoted.

Today I did my own test!
Bike on side stand- fill to reference point (collar lip): 19.31 litres
Heave bike onto centre stand- fill to same reference point: 20.96 litres.

That's 1.65 litres difference. At highway economy of 20 km /litre, that 33 kilometres.
I'll keep using the centrestand, because 33 km would have been a long walk on Saturday night.

Do your own tests on your own bike before you rely on my or anyone else's figures. Obviously they're all different! ;)

Rodd · « **Reply #14 on:** October 05, 2011, 04:08:52 PM »

Can you clear something up here?

It says somewhere (I'm sure it does!) to fill the tank to the bottom edge of the neck (?) on the ST1100. Do some of you go to the brim?

Biggles · « **Reply #15 on:** October 05, 2011, 04:51:45 PM »

The ST1300 has the same instruction- fill to the bottom of the filler neck- they even have a diagram to clarify it. I use that front edge of the bottom of the filler neck as my reference point.

saaz · « **Reply #16 on:** October 05, 2011, 05:02:02 PM »

On the ST11 you can keep on filling it beyond to the bottom of the filler neck. It will take a while but you can dribble more in. If you do this make sure that you are departing shortly, as Hondas instructions allow for some air space in the tank for fuel expansion. The filler neck is lower down to stop the tank being filled too much.

On my 78 GS1000 Suzuki I drilled some extra breather holes in the filler neck to speed up overfilling the tank. Again, only when just about to depart, not the first think when stopping for a while.

gerd · « **Reply #17 on:** October 10, 2011, 11:10:41 AM »

I'm a centrestand refiller with my ST1100 and about half way up beyond the bottom of the filler neck.

I also found some servos won't start the pump until you take your helmet off which is easier to do when you are not holding your bike up.

Diesel · « **Reply #18 on:** November 14, 2011, 09:21:19 PM »

Went for a ride today - 420kms and saw this sign while my mate refuelled......

Looks like they want you off the bike to refuel. This was in Gatton, Qld.

http://g.co/maps/rkxdg

Biggles · « **Reply #19 on:** November 14, 2011, 09:38:17 PM »

That's a fairly common sign, if you look around the many warnings that are put up to save us from ourselves. One obvious reason is the discomfort associated with pickling your scrotum if the tank overflows or you spill some out the fuel nozzle. Another consideration is being at the centre of the action if there's a fire. If you're off the bike at least you can jump away if it burst into flames. Not wanting to start a well-worn debate, but for the record, mobile phones cannot start fuel fires simply by answering or ring up while refuelling.

Streak · « **Reply #20 on:** November 14, 2011, 09:43:33 PM »

And you dint come and say hello! I was just up the range you rude bastard! Lol

Biggles · « **Reply #21 on:** November 14, 2011, 09:46:26 PM »

I see it wasn't very cool up the range today, either. 31 degrees wasn't it? Only ever go there bikos it's cooler than the lowlands.

alans1100 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 21, 2011, 01:27:42 AM »

I just put the bike on side stand, it's easier and I put what ever fits in the tank.

Oh!! the sign below is also an aid in preventing ride offs. It does happen and as for taking your helmet off......compulsory everywhere......just in case you decide to help your self to some free product etc. Makes it easier to see you on the video.

Alan

Only time my bike goes on centre stand is when I do an oil/filter change, rear drive oil and when I need to remove a wheel for a tyre change.
As for fueling, there's not a great deal of difference on the centre stand and the lean angle of bike on side stand. Now if your towing a trailer you'd never consider trying to put a 300kg bike plus trailer etc on the centre stand so why do it otherwise?

Apache · « **Reply #23 on:** December 21, 2011, 02:27:01 AM »

Quote from: Brock on October 03, 2011, 10:51:19 PM

Mine stays on the side stand, the effort to get the bike on the centre stand isnt worth the extra distance. Besides I'm old and lazy

HAHA old and Lazy ... Ive noticed that about these types of bikes. Im 33 and feel terribly young to be on here and riding a ST lol

Apache · « **Reply #24 on:** December 21, 2011, 02:28:12 AM »

Quote from: Diesel on November 14, 2011, 09:21:19 PM

Went for a ride today - 420kms and saw this sign while my mate refuelled......

Looks like they want you off the bike to refuel. This was in Gatton, Qld.

http://g.co/maps/rkxdg

Im guessing this was taken with a mobile phone?! ... that would relate to the next sticker along

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