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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #300 on: October 23, 2024, 10:09:24 AM »
ICE vs EV Fires: The Shocking Truth

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« Reply #301 on: October 27, 2024, 07:27:44 PM »
Toronto EV Crash: 4 Dead in Fire

This video covers the tragic Tesla crash in downtown Toronto that left four dead after the vehicle burst into flames. We also discuss a similar fatal crash in Michigan involving a Tesla and a wrong-way driver.
Learn about the dangers of lithium-ion batteries in high-speed crashes, the challenges of rescuing trapped passengers, and the risks posed by Tesla's electronic door handles and laminated windows.
Watch to understand how these incidents highlight critical safety concerns with electric vehicles.

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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #302 on: November 07, 2024, 12:46:37 PM »
With Donald Trump's win in the States, will that affect the future of EVs in that Country?  :think1

https://www.ttnews.com/articles/trump-evs-oil-epa


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« Reply #303 on: November 07, 2024, 07:07:36 PM »
Trump’s comeback may be the end of EVs

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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #304 on: November 08, 2024, 02:37:45 PM »
Typical media hype!  Elon Musk has a huge commitment to EVs which I'm sure Trump wouldn't jeopardise. I think it's just a matter of Trump removing the Left's mandates on manufacturers.  There is a place for EVs among the options for vehicle owners.  They suit a lot of people perfectly, just as there are those who swear by their diesel VWs etc.
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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #305 on: November 08, 2024, 05:23:57 PM »
Typical media hype!  Elon Musk has a huge commitment to EVs which I'm sure Trump wouldn't jeopardise. I think it's just a matter of Trump removing the Left's mandates on manufacturers.

Could be Bill, but Trump is that unpredictable he may very well follow through with some of his threats. I guess time will tell...

There is a place for EVs among the options for vehicle owners.  They suit a lot of people perfectly, just as there are those who swear by their diesel VWs etc.

I agree, but it doesn't hurt to point out that there are downsides (and there are downsides in spite of what the true believers will tell us) when it comes to EV ownership.
Obviously, there are also downsides with diesel & petrol vehicles as well, but this thread is about EVs... :grin
 
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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #306 on: November 08, 2024, 06:29:13 PM »
Musk put millions into Trump's campaign & is even a possibility for a Cabinet position.

He's invested & is sure he'll get a return on that for Tesla & SpaceX.

But, it'll be interesting to see what happens if Trump applies tarriffs to imports - like Tesla would be subjected to if made in China.

BTW Rusty, you're missing the Cars of the Future expo in Sydney this weekend - all the EVs & more. :grin
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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #307 on: November 08, 2024, 08:08:15 PM »
BTW Rusty, you're missing the Cars of the Future expo in Sydney this weekend - all the EVs & more. :grin

I'd actually be interested in that but not enough to travel to Sydney to see it! :thumbsup

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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #308 on: November 11, 2024, 08:54:27 PM »


My (stressful) drive from Land’s End to John o’ Groats in an EV
Ben Clatworthy,
Transport Correspondent
Friday November 08 2024, The Times


The Times’s transport correspondent battled range anxiety (and stale croissants)
as he put electric cars’ facilities to the test with an 867-mile road trip.

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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #309 on: November 20, 2024, 10:15:14 PM »
Hertz loses $2 billion, largely because of electric cars
The global car renting giant has posted its fourth loss in a row as it slashes its fleet of Tesla and Polestar electric cars.

Rental car giant Hertz has announced higher than expected losses of more than $AU2 billion which the company says is largely due to its failed electric vehicle strategy.
In announcing its third-quarter (July-September) 2024 results to shareholders, Hertz reported a loss of $US1.3 billion ($AU2 billion) with the majority being losses from its ex-rental electric vehicle sell-off.
The company says it is targeting an average of below $US300 ($AU460) in monthly depreciation for each vehicle, but it’s latest reported figure is nearly double at $US537 ($AU823).
The vehicle depreciation bill for the third-quarter was a staggering $US937 million ($AU1.43 billion).

To continue reading, click this link: https://www.drive.com.au/news/hertz-loses-2-billion-on-electric-cars/

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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #310 on: November 25, 2024, 08:06:25 PM »
Chinese EVs more affordable but owners may face costly surprises

The influx of affordable Chinese EVs is shaking up the Australian market but buyers could be stung by skyrocketing insurance premiums and hidden repair costs.

The Australian electric vehicle market has seen an influx of affordable models from newer Chinese automakers priced significantly lower than those from established brands.
New research reveals that while they may be cheaper, they could cost owners more to insure and repair.
Data from Compare the Market shows comprehensive insurance for EVs is on average 43 per cent more expensive than petrol-powered vehicles.

Compare the Market economic director David Koch said the top five best-selling EVs in Australia were more expensive to insure than traditional alternatives.
“Across the top five best-selling EVs and 12 car insurance providers, motorists could be spending between $98 to $1,788 more to comprehensively insure an EV every year – which
may diminish some of the benefits of reduced running costs,” he said.
The study compared the top five selling EVs with cars from Toyota, Audi, Mazda and Hyundai, using quotes from 12 insurers for a 34-year-old Brisbane man with a clean driving record.

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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #311 on: November 30, 2024, 12:29:38 PM »
The Unpopular Truth About Electric Vehicles | Mark P. Mills

It is often taken as a given that electric vehicles are friendlier for the environment and that we will all inevitably be driving them in the future.
In this video, Mark P. Mills of the National Center for Energy Analytics questions the government’s push towards EVs, and whether these “givens” are true.

https://youtu.be/OEkIh2PcSYE?si=SjnVFRDLrsws2Qnq

If you're really keen you can watch Mark P. Mills' lecture from the recent CCA, "Economic Issues and Controversies," here: https://tinyurl.com/29mu7vj3
In my opinion, it's definitely worth watching... ++

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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #312 on: December 01, 2024, 12:06:00 PM »
Jaguar issues buyback for thousands of electric SUVs

Overheating issues in Jaguar I-Pace battery packs has reportedly led to three fires—and a bunch of unhappy customers

Jaguar has launched a campaign in America to buy back nearly 3,000 examples of its I-Pace EV after a litany of complaints and
thermal overloads of the battery unit in certain examples from the 2019 model year. According to reports, the brand has agreed
to repurchase a total of 2,790 I-Pace EVs.

At issue is a battery pack that has an alleged manufacturing defect thanks to a line issue at the LG facility in which the batteries
were assembled. Overheating batteries and potential conflagration have been a problem in 2019 I-Pace crossovers for some spell
now, with at least three of the things catching fire even after the company issued a software update to help address the issue
under a previous recall.

Click link to continue reading: https://driving.ca/auto-news/driver-info/2019-jaguar-i-pace-buyback-recall-battery-fire-issue

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« Reply #313 on: December 01, 2024, 02:03:33 PM »
This report in today's Brisbane paper wouldn't cheer up many Tesla owners.

TESLA BURSTS INTO FLAMES FOLLOWING CRASH
SHAYLA BULLOCH
A Tesla driver and his teenage passenger have been injured after a car slammed into a pole and caught fire.
Paramedics were called to Shaw Rd in Wavell Heights at about 11am where a Tesla had crashed into a power pole.
A man in his 50s and his female passenger managed to escape the wreck before the car burst into flames.
“The fire burned for some time and produced a large amount of smoke,” the Queensland Fire Department said in a statement.
Residents were advised to close windows and doors and keep respiratory medications close by if required.
The man and the teenager were both taken to Royal Brisbane and Women’s Hospital in stable conditions suffering rib and back pain.

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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #314 on: December 01, 2024, 05:07:30 PM »
Speaking of Tesla fires...

The following video is quite interesting.

A Tesla caught fire, so what can we learn?

https://youtu.be/GhVt1d6uLrI?si=Z_8uiVjGIH-WISf6

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« Reply #316 on: December 03, 2024, 11:34:00 PM »
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« Reply #317 on: December 04, 2024, 07:49:38 AM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you're not interested in this thread, no one is making you read it!  :fp

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« Reply #318 on: December 04, 2024, 09:30:39 AM »
Has anyone ever heard of Brandolini?

I decided to Google it, and this is basically what it says...

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Brandolini’s law (also called the bullshit asymmetry principle), is the adage that “the amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it”.

Seems to fit the EV push perfectly...  :grin


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« Reply #319 on: December 04, 2024, 09:43:14 AM »
8 Dead, 1 Injured: The Danger of Electric Vehicle Crashes

Two devastating EV crashes in November claimed eight lives and left one critically injured. Why do these incidents often involve fires?
Discover the critical flaw in some EV designs, the unique risks of lithium-ion batteries, and the truth about post-crash fires in both EVs and gas-powered vehicles.
It’s time to rethink vehicle safety.

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« Reply #320 on: December 09, 2024, 02:48:01 PM »
EVs lead crash in new car sales

The sluggish uptake of battery EVs comes despite a raft of financial incentives offered by federal and state governments.
These include a higher luxury car tax threshold and exemptions from fringe benefits tax and customs duty.
Battery EVs are also exempted from paying road user charges via fuel excise, which is effectively a subsidy.
However, several jurisdictions reduced rebate programs and tax exemptions for 2023 and 2024.

The $3,000 rebates in New South Wales and South Australia terminated on January 1, this year.
The New South Wales government also eliminated a stamp duty rebate for new and used zero-emission vehicles worth
up to $78,000. Both incentives have been offered since 2021.

Victoria’s $3,000 rebate, which began in 2021, expired in the middle of 2023.

In the ACT, the incentive of two years of free registration expired on June 30, 2024.

Queensland’s $6,000 incentive for electric vehicles expired in September 2024.

The Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO) recently lowered its forecast for battery EV adoption over the next decade
from seven million to four million units.

A recent McKinsey Mobility Consumer survey shows that 49% of Australian EV owners are “very likely” to return to ICE vehicles.
Respondents’ main worries were the poor state of public charging infrastructure (35%) and expensive purchase costs (34%).

The comparison website Compare the Market recently raised concerns about ownership expenses.
The study of 12 insurers found that electric vehicles cost about 50% more to insure than their ICE counterparts.

To read the full story, click this link: https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2024/12/evs-lead-crash-in-new-car-sales/

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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #321 on: December 09, 2024, 11:00:46 PM »
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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #322 on: December 10, 2024, 07:21:42 AM »
“Many of these new EV sales are in the highly competitive medium passenger segment which already records almost 50 per cent of sales being electric but the segment accounting for just over four per cent of total sales,” Weber said.

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« Reply #323 on: December 12, 2024, 10:09:27 PM »
Australian EV market cracks 100,000 sales. Or does it?

Australia’s EV sales in 2024, including plug-in hybrid vehicles, have exceeded 100,000 units.
We take a look at the breakdown of those numbers.

https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/australian-ev-market-100k-sales

John Cadogan's take on the Electric Vehicle Council's fudging of the EV sales figures...
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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #324 on: December 17, 2024, 08:31:48 AM »
Strata owners are increasingly banning electric vehicles from charging in apartment carparks

In short:
Strata owners are increasingly banning electric vehicles (EVs) from charging in apartment basement carparks, citing a perceived risk of battery fires.
EV fire safety researchers say the risk is no greater than for petrol and diesel cars and such concerns are fed by misinformation, but state fire authorities urge caution.

What's next?
Strata committees blocking EV charging may slow the uptake of EVs and make it harder for Australia to meet its emission reduction commitments.

To continue, click this link: https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2024-12-17/strata-residents-banning-electric-vehicle-ev-charging/104707754
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