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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #400 on: August 23, 2025, 04:24:38 PM »
Now I don't have to see that crap anymore.

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« Reply #401 on: August 23, 2025, 04:32:15 PM »
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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #402 on: August 23, 2025, 04:58:46 PM »
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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #403 on: August 23, 2025, 11:46:59 PM »
Still a lot harder than an ice!
Plus a lot more time, planning & inconveniences involved...
It would be no different to how I cross the Nullarbor on my Goldwing, about to do another crossing next week.
It will be my 24th crossing on solo, have done 5 on sidecar (one ways).
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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #404 on: August 24, 2025, 12:41:49 AM »
Safe travels!  :thumbs
Sue & I are heading across the Nullarbor next month...

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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #405 on: August 25, 2025, 10:34:43 AM »
Plug-in hybrids are taking over EV sales. It wasn't meant to happen this way

In short:
Sales of plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs) are booming, while the market share of full-battery electric vehicles remains steady.
PHEVs now account for a quarter of EVs sold, as competing sides argue over whether they're a "stepping stone" or a "handbrake" to vehicle electrification.

What's next?
More automotive brands are launching new PHEV models into the Australian market, despite tax changes making PHEV ownership more expensive.

It's the "transition technology" that isn't going away.

For years, sales of plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs), which can burn fuel or run off a battery, have been tipped to fall as full-battery electric vehicles (BEVs) take their place.
But in Australia, another story is unfolding.
PHEV sales are booming.

One year ago, not a single PHEV ute had been sold anywhere in Australia.
Today, there are more than 12,000 on our roads, and a PHEV is the fourth best-selling ute in the country.

To some, PHEVs are a necessary "stepping stone" in the process of vehicle electrification, helping Australians get used to battery-powered cars.
But others argue PHEVs simply prolong our costly love affair with unnecessarily large cars.

These hybrids, they say, are effectively gas guzzlers dressed up as EVs, or "wolves in sheep's clothing".
So why are Australians reluctant to drop the fuel tank entirely, and what does it mean for reducing emissions?

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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #406 on: September 04, 2025, 12:17:06 PM »
Australia’s looming EV disaster

There is a massive problem brewing with EVs in Australia and if it’s not dealt with very soon, there will be plenty of very angry Aussie car owners.

Electric vehicle experts have lashed out at “junk” chargers described as a “national problem” that must be addressed.
Unreliable EV fast-chargers made by Tritium are a source of immense frustration for drivers looking for a quick top-up.

Once praised by Prime Minister Anthony Albanese as “the fastest and best chargers for electric vehicles in the world”, Tritium chargers are now often
referred to by a less flattering term: Shitium.

Tritium was a Brisbane-based company that was the dominant player in Australian electric vehicle charging, claiming to provide hardware to 75 per
cent of the national fast-charging network.

The company rose to global prominence, building huge numbers of chargers for Australia before shutting down its Queensland factory to shift
manufacturing to the US in 2023.

The move backfired – Tritium was declared insolvent in 2024, before Indian giant Exicom snapped it up cheaply.
Now, customers that bought its chargers are struggling to keep them running and EV owners risk being left stranded.

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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #407 on: September 11, 2025, 06:39:32 PM »
Maybe everyone can go EB instead, up to 280k range & 90min recharge, also lightweight for those older members  :Stirpot Pickles nationwide electric bike auction starting from bids of $1.00  https://www.pickles.com.au/campaigns/electric-motorbike-liquidation
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« Reply #408 on: September 11, 2025, 06:46:32 PM »
I saw that on the news tonight... :thumbs

Says a lot about the popularity of electric motorcycles doesn't it?  :Stirpot

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« Reply #409 on: September 11, 2025, 07:04:29 PM »
Maybe everyone can go EB instead, up to 280k range & 90min recharge, also lightweight for those older members  :Stirpot Pickles nationwide electric bike auction starting from bids of $1.00  https://www.pickles.com.au/campaigns/electric-motorbike-liquidation

Will purchasers have any problems with registration? 

Shouldn't have, if all of the documentation is complete. The "if" could be very big for many fronting up to VicRoads to get their (say) $5000 purchase registered. For a novice like me, and there could be a few, when the VR rego officer says that you don't have the necessary paprwork, not knowing where to go for it, some poor sap could end up with a heavy boat anchor.

The website indicates ride away prices starting at $9,995 and $16,750 (depending on model). What these will go for is anyone's guess at the moment, but we'll know in a few days.

Perhaps a bigger concern ..... that there could be a plethora of cashed-up bogans buying some of the cheaper ones for a song, forgetting / ignoring rego requirements and then them and / or their kids riding along the bike trails and even on road like some are already doing. I've encountered a few of these electric motorbikes (not eBikes) on the Yarra Trail, Warburton Trail and Darebin Creek Trail in recent weeks and months, only a coupla weeks back one of the evening news programs featured a swarm of them on a Melbourne arterial road, dashing in and out traffic, ignoring just about every rule in the book.

These things do frightening speeds and are deathly quiet, and scare the shyte outta of you when they come from behind.

Better double my blood pressure meds.

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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #410 on: September 29, 2025, 12:25:41 PM »
Just to add fuel to the fire copied this from FB
Hi, in case it interests anyone wondering about longevity of an EV and use of public charging, its now 4 years I've been driving an EV and it has worked out well, so thought I'd share my stats today. Here are some stats as of today, with my EV now 4 yrs old.
Odometer: 100,041km
Average lifetime driving consumption: 15kWh/100km
Battery storage capacity: The battery is now at 90% of original capacity
Average real world range at 110km/hr: At new it was ~460-500km, now after 4 yrs ~ 410-450km.
Charging Lifetime History:
I usually park on the street and mainly use public charging, with a split of about 20% home and 80% public charging.
AC home and public charging for 54% of charges
DC charging for 46% of charges
Public Charging networks used most in the last 12 month period: AC networks - Chargefox 32%, Exploren 31%, Non networked 15%, Enevi 5%, Seavolt 3%, SolarHub 2%, ChargePost 2%, Charge N Go 2% Other networks 8%.
DC Networks - Tesla 30%, Evie 24%, Jolt 21%, Exploren 16%, Chargefox 3%, AmpCharge 2%, BP Pulse 2%, Other 2%.
Cost of public charging: As an example, my charging cost, using a variety of public AC & DC chargers, for my trip to Townsville from Sydney 4,849km return, was $7.35 per 100km, ($356.35 total). But if I charge at my local public AC charger its 35c/kWh, so $5.25 to travel 100km
Charging time: varies but as an example, my fastest charging rate was when the charge rate peaked at 196kW at the DC charger at Holbrook NSW, taking my EV from 16% to 80% in 25 min.
Type of roads travelled: Travel has been across eastern states of Australia including all the coast from Townsville Qld to Port Fairy Vic. Inland travel included only out to as far west as Nhill and Mildura in Vic and Balranald, Hillston, Cobar and Bourke in NSW.
Type of EV: A Tesla 3 AWD LR 2021 Model with 75kWh battery.
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Re: Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs
« Reply #411 on: September 30, 2025, 01:20:37 AM »
That's quite interesting, Glen... :thumbs

Speaking of Teslas...I caught up with my brother-in-law in Adelaide recently on our travels West and got to experience his Volvo EV as a passenger.
He'd previously owned a Tesla 3 but wasn't a fan so got rid of it and bought the Volvo.
Besides the Volvo being a bit more conventional dash wise, he said it has a better range than the Tesla.


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« Reply #412 on: September 30, 2025, 01:21:57 AM »
Spotted a rather nice EV last Sunday at a Car Show in Denmark...






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« Reply #413 on: September 30, 2025, 06:32:05 AM »
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« Reply #414 on: September 30, 2025, 09:46:04 AM »
Spotted a rather nice EV last Sunday at a Car Show in Denmark...

Denmark WA?
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« Reply #415 on: September 30, 2025, 10:23:33 AM »
Yes!  :thumbs

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« Reply #416 on: September 30, 2025, 11:25:50 AM »
Spotted a rather nice EV last Sunday at a Car Show in Denmark...







I count 12 big batteries, big load (what 400kg to 500kg?) on the rear axle and tyres, wonder if tyres had a load rating in those days, what around 1915 to 1920?  Also, looks like swivel front seats, would make it easier getting in and out.
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« Reply #417 on: September 30, 2025, 11:55:08 AM »
According to the blurb they had there it has 7 batteries, 3 at the front, 4 at the rear.
While it doesn't have a gearbox, it has 6 speed settings on a column beside the steering tiller...

Interestingly it has a dual control option allowing it to be driven from either the front or rear seat.
Maybe Tesla could feature that option in a future model?  :rofl

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« Reply #418 on: September 30, 2025, 01:32:14 PM »
According to the blurb they had there it has 7 batteries, 3 at the front, 4 at the rear....

Looks like four wide, three deep to me.

Owner must've ordered the "long range" model.
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« Reply #419 on: September 30, 2025, 01:34:44 PM »
.... what around 1915 to 1920? 

Zoomed in, "2017" on the battery compartment lid, has a number plate to match.
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« Reply #420 on: September 30, 2025, 02:13:11 PM »
Looks like four wide, three deep to me.

Owner must've ordered the "long range" model.

I zoomed in and it looks like 4 wide, 2 deep to me...Specsavers anyone???  :rofl

As I mentioned earlier, I was just going by the board they had on display about the beastie.
Perhaps, as you said it may now be a long range model...They would probably need it to get to Denmark WA if they aren't local...  :grin

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« Reply #421 on: October 19, 2025, 08:59:57 PM »
Interesting story on Tesla's self driving (Auto Pilot) system on 60 Minutes tonight...
You can watch it on 9Now: https://www.9now.com.au/60-minutes  :popcorn

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« Reply #423 on: October 20, 2025, 10:30:31 AM »
I haven't got the time at the moment to watch an hour plus video ...maybe when I get home?
I'm assuming it's a video saying how good auto pilot is... Yes?  :popcorn

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« Reply #424 on: November 14, 2025, 08:35:53 AM »
‘Massive shock’: $100k Tesla’s value plummets as EV devaluation remains an ‘unknown’

Tesla’s Model 3 went for more than $100,000 five years ago - now owners are selling them for a staggering price for one brutal reason.

Tesla’s Model 3 went for more than $100,000 AUD five years ago - now owners are selling them for less than a quarter of the price as the residual values of EVs remain an “unknown”.

One 2020 Tesla Model 3 spotted for sale on social media this week was listed for $24,200, an almost 80 per cent devaluation. The car had a single owner and 138,000 kilometres
on the clock. Other cars of the same year and model were listed in the $28,000-$30,000 range.

Rob Leigh from car comparison website thebeep.com.au said no other car model had lost its value so quickly.

He reckoned the creator of the $24,200 listing was “clearly struggling” to sell their Tesla.

“It’s a massive shock, but personally I doubt if it’s unexpected, because no one knew what these things were going to be worth,” Mr Leigh told news.com.au.

“The thing about Teslas is it’s still a bit of an unknown for everyone right now - and for EVs in general - when it comes to residual values.”

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