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BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY
Saturday January 17, 2026

Parliament House
Spring St, East Melbourne VIC 3002
12pm - 1.30pm

We have had enough of the appalling state of Victoria’s roads.
Motorcyclists are being maimed and killed and the State Government continues to refuse to fix the problems.
And to add insult to serious injury they have the nerve to impose an $82 per annum discriminatory Motorcycle Safety Levy on riders.

We say “Enough is Enough” and have two demands

1. That the government exercise their legal duty of care and immediately release appropriate funding to fix the States road systems.

2. The the government repeal the Motorcycle Safety Levy immediately.



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Re: BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2025, 06:00:49 AM »
Looks like the projects Levy has/is currently funding are all good projects, so I'm ok with the Levy, because who's going to pay for it otherwise?

https://transport.vic.gov.au/road-and-active-transport/road-rules-and-safety/motorcycles/motorcycle-safety-levy/completed-projects
https://transport.vic.gov.au/road-and-active-transport/road-rules-and-safety/motorcycles/motorcycle-safety-levy/current-projects

The crashcard is a brilliant idea
https://transport.vic.gov.au/road-and-active-transport/road-rules-and-safety/motorcycles/motorcycle-safety-levy/motorcycle-crash-card

So yeah, I'm ok with the levy, it's a price I'm willing to pay

Calling it an insult to injury is a little too extreme for my liking, so I'll be staying as far away from the type of people expecting to go to this thing as possible.

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Re: BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2025, 06:44:08 AM »
>because who's going to pay for it otherwise?

They may be good projects but as a motorcyclist you're happy to be singled out for a tax that no other road user is required to pay?  :eek
Roads should be suitable for ALL road users and singling out a particular road user (especially one that does very little damage to our roads) doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense...
Even enquiries into motorcycle safety have called for the levy to be scrapped as it's discriminatory...

so I'll be staying as far away from the type of people expecting to go to this thing as possible.

The type of people...really? Those that are finding the state of our roads a disgrace and wanting them fixed...  :o  :crazy

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Re: BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2025, 08:14:39 AM »
 
The type of people...really? Those that are finding the state of our roads a disgrace and wanting them fixed...  :o  :crazy

Considering the links you posted. The name of the Facebook group is called "Hogs, Cog's and Two Aussie Flogs" and the Instagram post you also linked shows fake signs saying the "Roads F'd"

It's not rocket science to expect the event to be full of the "type of people" I don't want to be associated with. Go or don't, I don't care.

The levy isn't there to fix potholes https://transport.vic.gov.au/road-and-active-transport/road-rules-and-safety/motorcycles/motorcycle-safety-levy/about-the-motorcycle-safety-levy

I would expect the levi to focus on bike riders, if they fix some bad areas of the road then bonus, enjoy, but I'd rather the levi be 100% on motobike issues.


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Re: BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2025, 10:44:55 AM »
The type of people...really? Those that are finding the state of our roads a disgrace and wanting them fixed...  :o  :crazy

Considering the links you posted. The name of the Facebook group is called "Hogs, Cog's and Two Aussie Flogs" and the Instagram post you also linked shows fake signs saying the "Roads F'd"

It's not rocket science to expect the event to be full of the "type of people" I don't want to be associated with. Go or don't, I don't care.

Does it really matter who came up with the idea of holding a "protest" over the state of our roads?
I'm not a supporter of that Facebook group either but I can certainly support any group of motorcyclists (be they Harley riders or whatever) that have our best interests at heart.

By the way, that Instagram post had nothing to do with the organisers but was added by me as it shows the state of our roads and was a bit of a laugh...well, for some of us with a sense of humour anyhow!

The levy isn't there to fix potholes https://transport.vic.gov.au/road-and-active-transport/road-rules-and-safety/motorcycles/motorcycle-safety-levy/about-the-motorcycle-safety-levy

I don't think anyone said it was...it's just an issue (wanting it removed) that is being bought up as part of the protest.


I would expect the levi to focus on bike riders, if they fix some bad areas of the road then bonus, enjoy, but I'd rather the levi be 100% on motobike issues.

That's the problem, it doesn't just benefit motorcyclists, some of the stuff they spend the money on benefits all road users yet no other road user is slugged an extra tax to pay for these works.

There were also reports some years back that these "funds" were going to be used to buy police motorcycles. https://tinyurl.com/53bm5hdb
Which brings up the issue of "accountability" as to how these funds are being spent.

There's also the millions of dollars of unspent funds just sitting idle, not being used to benefit anyone, let alone motorcyclists...  :||||
If they were actually serious about the safety of motorcyclists they could perhaps use some of these unused funds to offer a rebate on good quality motorcycle related safety gear...just a thought.

Calling it an insult to injury is a little too extreme for my liking, <

You can't see why it's an insult to injury by the fact they, on one hand are slugging motorcyclists in the name of safety, yet are seemingly happy to let our roads deteriorate to the point that it's extremely dangerous for motorcyclists? (and obviously for every other road user too)  :fp :eek

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Re: BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2025, 08:55:18 AM »
I remember the levy being introduced in 2002 very well. There was a large uproar from motorcyclists for pretty much the same reasons as you're raising now. Then we all saw the money being spent (Rider Aware media campaigns, the Black/Reefton Spurs being re-surfaced with motorcycles in mind, etc.) and the noise went away.

Although I don't currently live in Victoria (having spent most of my life there) I often travel back and to be honest, the roads are not as bad as you and others are making them out to be. NSW roads, they are regularly shite, somewhat the same with Qld, but Victorian roads are on the whole far better.

And let's face it, the excuse that roads are killing motorcyclists is just a feeble attempt to absolve motorcyclists from their poor choices. In my 28 years of riding I've been on some really crappy roads, including icy bridges and slushy mud tracks on a sports bike, and not come off because I ride accordingly.
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Re: BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2025, 09:16:39 AM »
Not sure what roads you've been riding on in Victoria, Dale as they are certainly crap with massive holes at times in plenty of places.

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Re: BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2025, 09:40:00 AM »
You really wanna go there? OK.

On my last trip down (October 2024 for the MotoGP) I entered Vic at Echuca travelling through Rochester, Heathcote, Tooborac, Kilmore, Arthurs Creek, Panton Hill then taking Jumping Creek Rd out to Lilydale and visiting my old stomping grounds in the Mt Dandenong Ranges. On the way back I took the coastal road east to Bairnsdale to visit the folks then headed up over the Great Alpine Road until Ovens where I headed to Yackandandah and Wodonga.

The previous year I entered Vic at Tintaldra and headed towards Tallangatta to enjoy the incredibly relentless Omeo Hwy between Mitta Mitta and Omeo before resting a few days at Bairnsdale. Then on to Melbourne (Coastal roads again) and having a blast or two up and down Arthurs Seat and camping near Launching Place. Heading back I went out far east through Orbost and Cann River.

A far from exhaustive list, but I can assure you the roads are not in as diabolical condition as you are making them out to be. Do potholes exist? Of course they do. Are they an existential threat to motorcyclist? Only if you're not paying attention, but that's the same everywhere.
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Re: BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2025, 10:37:53 AM »
You must be right then, Dale... :-++

Everyone else, me included, must be imagining it all...


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Re: BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2025, 10:46:18 AM »
You must be right then, Dale... :-++

Everyone else, me included, must be imagining it all...

Now you're getting it!  ;-* :rofl :rofl
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Re: BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2025, 11:13:17 AM »
The levy isn't there to fix potholes https://transport.vic.gov.au/road-and-active-transport/road-rules-and-safety/motorcycles/motorcycle-safety-levy/about-the-motorcycle-safety-levy

The poster the group of flogs are promoting is all about fixing potholes. I can't find any further information about the rally or it's purpose aside from


"We don't want the levi"
"Fix the potholes."


"Get our roads fixed, remove the levy."

That's their motto. so in other words, fix the pothole...but don't fund it from my back pocket, take the money from someplace else

They offer up no solutions or ideas or alternative paths.

Basically, it's just a slogan so those people have an excuse to protest.
If they were serious, they would create a group with a better name than "flogs"

Imagine the Premier coming out to talk to them.

"what group are you representing?"
"well, we're with the group flogs"
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BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2025, 01:15:05 PM »
I started a similar thread on ADVRider back in August (not long after the rally was first announced) - on this link if anyone is interested.  https://www.advrider.com/f/threads/broken-roads-broken-promises-rally-12-00pm-17-january-2026-parliament-house-melbourne.1808859/

That thread too pretty quickly disintergrated with some negative and irrelevant comments, sometimes you have to wonder why.  If anyone  is not interested in supporting the rally - that's okay, but there's no need for negative input - that's not okay.

Bottom line re. the rally and the organisers (like 'em or lump 'em, it doesn't really matter.) is that at least these guys are having a crack, a red hot crack. If anyone doesn't like that, negative comments about them or the rally are only counter productive.

Re. the condition of roads in Victoria, sure there are many in good condition (as they should be), but many are in a terrible condition (as they shouldn't be).   

The fact that Victorian roads Dale has ridden over the past two year are in adequate condition is good, but doesn't mean the rest of the Victorian road network is similarly adequate.  I too have ridden / driven many good roads in Victoria over recent years, I'm sure many others on here have too, and I'm sure that these out number the poor roads in terms of the total number of roads and total length of roads.  When roads are good, they're good; when they're bad, they're bad.

But there are many in terrible condition.  From the many km travelled (motorbike and car) since 2022, I've prepared list, this is pretty comprehensive, but far from exhaustive.  It may seem a little ad hoc or random, but I've looked a trips in roughly in chronological order or as they come to mind, starting with the ride to the RTE at Meredith in January 2022.
  • Glenmore Road
  • Geelong - Ballan Road
  • Meredith - Stieglitz Road
  • Purvis Road
  • Beverly Road
  • Caveat - Dropemore Road
  • Longwood - Ruffey Road
  • Glenelg Highway
  • Western Highway
  • Yan Yean Road
  • Melba Highway
  • Tylden - Woodend Road
  • Perasons Road
  • Whittlesea - Yea Road
  • Broadford - Flowerdale Road
  • Koo Wee Rup Road
  • Lancefield - Tooboorac Road
  • Lancefield - Kilmore Road
  • Haddon - Windemere Road
  • Henty Highway
  • Dartmoor - Hamilton Road
  • Winmap - Nelson Road
  • Cobden - Port Campbell Road
  • Cobden - Stonyford Road

Sure it's a rider's / driver's responsibility to ride / drive appropriately, at a speed and with vision to enable them to see what's ahead, avoid a hazard.  But this is easier said than done, especially a night and / or when VicRoads / Regional Roads Victoria / Department of Transport / Department of Transport & Planning (or whatever they're calling themselves this week) or local Council hasn't installed appropriate advance warning to advise of the hazard (as required their respective Road Management Plans).




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Re: BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2025, 01:30:43 PM »
Bottom line re. the rally and the organisers (like 'em or lump 'em, it doesn't really matter.) is that at least these guys are having a crack, a red hot crack. If anyone doesn't like that, negative comments about them or the rally are only counter productive.
A red hot crack at trying to get rid of a levy which helps every single rider, just because the money isn't getting spent the way the flogs want it spent. Road surface improvements are a small portion of what is listed that the levy money is spent on.


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The Motorcycle Safety Levy (MSL) - currently $83.60 (incl GST) - is included in your registration fees for any motorcycle with an engine 126cc or larger.

The MSL is collected as part of the Transport Accident Commission (TAC) registration premium and used specifically for motorcycle safety projects. These projects are led by the Victorian Department of Transport and Planning (DTP).

If you ride a motorcycle that is registered in Victoria, you’ve paid the MSL, and it’s being used to make your ride safer.

More than $100 million has been spent in the last decade on a range of safety initiatives across the following areas:

  • road safety infrastructure for motorcyclists
  • technology and intelligent transport solutions (ITS)
  • education and research
  • motorcycle policy and law
  • Infrastructure improvements that make your ride safer are the biggest area of spending from the MSL. This includes improved curve alignment signage and delineation, protection systems at the base of roadside barriers, bell-mouth sealing, post cushions, and road surface improvements.

Examples of projects in the other safety areas that have been funded by the MSL include:

motorcycle lane filtering legislation (motorcycle policy and law)
motorcycle graduated licensing scheme (education and research)
motorcycle anti-lock braking technology promotion (technology and ITS).



Why not join the Motorcycling Community Engagement Panel and learn how to contribute to the conversation.

But hey, it's more fun to yell on the steps of Parliament

I hope they enjoy their lane filtering on the way to and from the event, courtesy of the same levy they're so against.  :fp


 

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Re: BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2025, 01:41:50 PM »
Wow, just wow, Michael, something we actually agree on!!!!  :runyay
Re your reasoning, I couldn't put it better myself... :thumbs

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Re: BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2025, 01:55:50 PM »
Based on their Youtube channel history, Hog's, Cog's and Two Aussie Flogs, have been around for at least two years.  A link to the channel popped-up in my feed about two years ago, I watched, not my cup of tea, was sent a link about six months ago and revisited, still not my cup of tea.

But as the talk then was about the state of the roads, and they were hoping to do something about that (when no one else seems to be doing much), I was interested. Yeah, a lot of their logic is not (err) logical, their actions and objectives not thought through to well, but the ends often justifies the means, ie. if they can bring about some improvements to our roads, all the better.

Lane splitting?  Poor use of the levy if it went towards that initiative.  Other states have lane splitting, they don't have a levy.

 
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Re: BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2025, 03:49:02 PM »
A red hot crack at trying to get rid of a levy which helps every single rider, just because the money isn't getting spent the way the flogs want it spent. Road surface improvements are a small portion of what is listed that the levy money is spent on.

Me thinks you need to get over who is organising the protest, Marcus!
Regardless of what you think of them, at least these guys are getting off their backsides and are trying to get something done about the poor state of our roads and adding the  discriminatory motorcycle safety levy as part of the protest just makes sense...
Other States don't feel the need to slug motorcyclists a "safety levy" on their registration so why the need to do it in Victoria?
Motorcycles don't destroy roads yet here in Victoria it's motorcyclists who are being slugged a discriminatory levy to help fix roads, barriers & signage to make them "supposedly" more motorcycle friendly, something, considering roads should be suitable for all road users, should be coming out of Vicroads road repair budget.

Just as an aside, roads are being made more bicycle friendly at enormous cost and to the detriment of other road users yet they aren't being slugged a levy...  :whistle




 

 

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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2025, 03:55:18 PM »
Lane splitting?  Poor use of the levy if it went towards that initiative.  Other states have lane splitting, they don't have a levy.
Just a correction, it's filtering...not lane splitting... :thumb

Speaking of lane filtering, it wasn't so long ago that bureaucrats tried to make filtering illegal as they considered it was dangerous... :||||
How things change as filtering is now seen as being safe...  :clap

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Re: BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2025, 04:08:23 PM »
Other States don't feel the need to slug motorcyclists a "safety levy" on their registration so why the need to do it in Victoria?

Here in Qld we do have a "Road Improvement Fee" which is $65.05 regardless of the vehicle type. One could argue smaller vehicles should pay less (or larger vehicles more).
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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2025, 04:29:18 PM »

Me thinks you need to get over who is organising the protest, Marcus!


I don't have a problem with the flogs, I know nothing about them. I'm simply referring to them by the name they chose to call themselves


Regardless of what you think of them, at least these guys are getting off their backsides and are trying to get something done about the poor state of our roads and adding the  discriminatory motorcycle safety levy as part of the protest just makes sense...
Other States don't feel the need to slug motorcyclists a "safety levy" on their registration so why the need to do it in Victoria?

Motorcycles don't destroy roads yet here in Victoria it's motorcyclists who are being slugged a discriminatory levy to help fix roads, barriers & signage to make them "supposedly" more motorcycle friendly, something, considering roads should be suitable for all road users, should be coming out of Vicroads road repair budget.
They are not just fixing bitumen roads, ALL areas, including dirt, that motobikes traverse

The fact that They're singular focus is motobikes is only a good thing. Other states motobike communites have to fight with all the other road users to get issues dealt with. But we have a fund and we have a body of people focusing on US, I mean just read what they are doing and have done, here is a link for you. https://transport.vic.gov.au/road-and-active-transport/road-rules-and-safety/motorcycles/motorcycle-safety-levy/current-projects

Speaking of lane filtering, it wasn't so long ago that bureaucrats tried to make filtering illegal as they considered it was dangerous... :||||
How things change as filtering is now seen as being safe...  :clap

Was that before or after the levy Funded that change. You can't have it both ways.

Anyway, that's all I'm going to say on this as we're going around in circles and you start to contradict yourself

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Re: BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2025, 07:31:05 PM »
I don't have a problem with the flogs, I know nothing about them. I'm simply referring to them by the name they chose to call themselves

It's obvious from your comments you actually do...
You're even calling them the Floggs when that isn't their name...
While you might not like their Youtube name, most people would realise they are taking the p*ss out of themselves.

They are not just fixing bitumen roads, ALL areas, including dirt, that motobikes traverse

And your point is? Dirt roads are part of the road network and should all be fixed under Vicroads road repair budget as I've previous mentioned...

Was that before or after the levy Funded that change. You can't have it both ways.

As States such as NSW & Queensland had already brought in the law, Vicroads would probably have also followed suit regardless using funds set aside for legislation.

Just as an aside, in spite of what Governments would have you believe, motorcycle filtering/splitting was never illegal.
It was only when actual filtering laws were introduced that they made lane splitting illegal...

If you or anyone else would like to read about the concerns regarding the Motorcycle Safety Levy, these previous threads are worth checking out:


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Re: BROKEN ROADS = BROKEN PROMISES PROTEST RALLY Saturday January 17, 2026
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2025, 10:44:27 PM »
Massive Biker Rally WILL go ahead. Thousands to descend on Parliament.

https://youtu.be/0HSOE7_t6gc

Fingers crossed they do get thousands!  :X
Unfortunately motorcyclists are an apathetic lot so I guess we'll see...

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« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2025, 10:36:23 AM »
Some pics and screen shots from the Hogs, Cogs and Two Aussie Flogs Facebook page to remind us of what the concern is about.  First two on the Melba Highway, and then some from the Marysville - Woods Point Road.

The management of the roads is poor on a number of levels:
  • The condition - that's obvious.
  • The time it takes for faults get any attention and then ultimately repaired.
  • Even when repairs are implemented these are often poor, further work is then required, it's often a vicious circle

With resect to #2, VIC state legislation requires all road authorities (VicRoads and Councils) to have a road management plan (RMP).  These set-out timeframes for inspections and surviellance, intervention levels for when faults on roads are identified, and grading system for faults.

It's a number of years since I was directly involved in road maintenance (the memory is fuzzy), but typically higher order roads have priority over minor roads, ie. frequency of inspections (weekly to yearly), how long for intervention to occur (4 hours to 3 months) and large potholes to small potholes (detailed definitions are in the RMP).   In some circumstances it may be adequate for an initial intervention to simply be the deployment of advance warning and appropriate hazard signs, although this should only be temporary, ie. until repairs are implemented.

Apart from the obvious, this area is largely where VicRoads fas failed:
  • Inspections are not as frequent as required, or if they are VicRoads' officers are not adeuately identifying  and / or reporting faults.
  • Advance warning and hazard signs are not installed as required.
  • Repairs are not implemented as required.

Take the Melba Highway example, this failure did not occur overnight, it has taken many weeks, perhaps months to get to this stage.  In my experience, this would have started as a minor fail, probably a minor crack in the seal or small pothole but due to not being reported and repaired, water seeps in, softens the base, more traffic, bigger crack or pothole, more water, soft base spreads, the failure spreads exponentially.  A $500 repair is now a $50,000 repair.

Same with the Marysville - Woods Point Road which is a $500,000 repair.  In the meantime. all of thsoe potholes and defects should have advance warning and signs, but they don't.

And both examples show repairs have failed, more repair and $$ required.


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« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2025, 01:10:17 PM »
Good post, Michael!  :thumbs

I travelled home from last months Toolleen RTE via the Marysville - Woods Point Rd and the road is certainly a shocker!
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Hundreds of bikers take pot shots at the Victorian premier

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Hundreds of bikers take pot shots at the Victorian premier

Good turnout, well behaved bunch, message got across to the State Opposition, not sure about the Government though.  Opposition was represented by Danny O'Brien, Member for Gippsland South, Shadow Minister for Roads and Road Safety; Brad Batten, two other State Members and a Federal Member (forgot their names).  Organisers said that they sent numerous emails to Government representatives but didn't even get an acknowledgement or reply. 

Federal Member (rode pillon from Warnambool), very passionate.



Organisers spoke passionately and mostly coherently, a father and son talked about the son's big pot holed caused near fatal "off" on the Mount Dandenong Tourist Road (a State road).

Other attendees included MV Augusta Martin and me.



State Members pledged to improve road maintenance, not spend $Billions of $$ on unnecessary road and transport infratructure.  They cited the Westgate Tunnel and Metro Rail Tunnel projects, both which were $Billons over budget, funds which could have fixed the pot holes and poor roads throughout the State and have some $$ left over.



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