Open Face/Full face helmets

[Streak]

Have been thinking about getting a Shark Evoline 3, pretty good price from AMA at the moment too..  http://amawarehouse.com.au/shark-evoline-3-st-helmet-matt-p-25331.html

But am not 100% sure on the flip over the head bit.  Is it difficult to flip, the one I tried was a bit stiff.   Your thoughts on these guys?

had mine for about 18 months - 2 years now, and i have never had a problem with them at all, i love the flip over works brilliantly

[ST2UP]

The flip on the Shark series is very user friendly  much easier to assess when it on your head and not in your hands.......

Muscle memory is the secret......once you have done it for the first 20 times it will be smooth and second nature 


 

[Biggles]

Tragic case here in Brisbane of a young kid who sustained such serious facial and other head injuries in a suburban crash that they had to turn off his life support yesterday.  The extent of the injuries makes it sound like an open-faced helmet- especially since it was about a 60 kph hit.

[Brock]

Its a little difficult at first, but not too bad when you get used to it. Being able to get the chin bar out of the way is a plus if you need to get through ID controlled gates

[Aussieboy]

My series 2 evoline was replaced under warranty when about 12 months old and having seen around 25,000 kms of riding. The rubber under the top of the visor split and the rubber around the left side came unstuck. In torrential rain I also had water entry via the slide for the sun visor. There was no question whatever about the warranty, they just replaced it with a series 3. I love these helmets and have had no issues with the current one which has seen more time and kilometres than the first. Last time I checked they are the only flip up that it is legal to wear either open or closed. They also ranked 5 star for safety. Compared with my wifes Shoei at nearly twice the price that only got 4 stars. Happy to recommend the helmet and the service the distributor provides.

[tj189]

another happy customer here 

one for sale here http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=5992.0

[Lionel]

I lost control of my bike in the rain at night doing approx 90 km/h between Coffs Harbour and Grafton a few weeks ago.
I was thrown off the bike landed on my left hand side and bashed my head twice on the bitumen before sliding down the road.
I didn't even get a headache; my head was so well protected and snug inside a Shoei multitech which I had bought on special for $400 at Joe's Motorcycles in Fyshwick.
The helmet looks fine. But it has to be replaced and the insurance company covers the cost.
How much is your face/head worth?
Many things raced through my mind before I came to a stop down the road, wearing the bike, spearing into the tree line and being collected by a following car. The driver of the following car stopped to assist and said he missed me by a cat's whisker.
What I didn't think about was the capabilities of my helmet. I had already stopped sliding before head protection entered my mind.
No prizes for guessing the brand and style of the replacement helmet.
The bike was written off and the replacement is a 2010 Yamaha FJR1300AP.
So I've joined the ranks of the interlopers.

[Wild Rose]

The bike was written off and the replacement is a 2010 Yamaha FJR1300AP.
So I've joined the ranks of the interlopers.

Best of luck Lionel with the FJR1300 they are a great bike but not as much fun as a ST1300 

 

[Lionel]

Thanks Leo.
A couple of first impressions.
The stock standard seat needs to be modified by an axe. The ST1300 was ahead here though I still had mine modified to a terrific standard.
The low beam on the FJR is brilliant, much better than the ST1300 and light (pun intended) years ahead of my ST1100. I believe the police models have stock standard lights though I haven't confirmed this yet.
Both bikes 2008 ST and 2010 FJR lack a kms to empty display.
Yamaha Gen 3 from 2013, Honda ST ???
Fuel consumption, probably the same but too early to confirm. 91 Octane fuel.

[Biggles]

Both bikes 2008 ST and 2010 FJR lack a kms to empty display.
Yamaha Gen 3 from 2013, Honda ST ???
Fuel consumption, probably the same but too early to confirm. 91 Octane fuel.

My ST13 goes from 2 bars to one flashing with a count-down based on current consumption.  So at highway speeds it starts around 95 km to run.  The problems in, around town it soon loses count and becomes unreliable. For that reason, I reset my trip meter and fill before it gets up to 80, preferably 70.

Gen 3??  I deduce that means it's in its third stage of development since the first model.  STs have made some minor changes; hard to improve a perfect bike, but it's all over now!   

91 octane- works for me too.

On "The Checkout" (ABC TV) recently they found that you will get more range out of 98 octane, but the cents/km is higher, so there's no economic reason, and there never was a "power" reason.

[Maxnettoz]

I have had an R Jays Tourtech for about 4 years now and today decided it was time for a new one.  I tried on a new Tourtech which made me realise just how worn mine was.  Was going to get the R Jays Carbotech for $350.00  Lighter the the Tourtech by a long way.  Then I tried a full face Kabuto Aeroblade 3 on,  As much as I like the flip ups like the Tourtech, Evoline etc.  This Aeroblade 3 is the best helmet I have worn.  Extremely light, reasonably quiet, fantastic vision, superb ventilation.  Picked it up for $350.00.  I give it a double thumbs up.  Not even thinking twice about not being a flip up (modular).  Behind the ST1300 screen or over it, I cannot sing enough praises.

[Biggles]

Then I tried a full face Kabuto Aeroblade 3 on,  As much as I like the flip ups like the Tourtech, Evoline etc.  This Aeroblade 3 is the best helmet I have worn.  Extremely light, reasonably quiet, fantastic vision, superb ventilation.  Picked it up for $350.00.  I give it a double thumbs up.  Not even thinking twice about not being a flip up (modular).  Behind the ST1300 screen or over it, I cannot sing enough praises.

Great price.  They're $373 + $55 postage from eBay USA.

Wheredja geddit?

[Skip]

Check 'em out at 457 Tufnell Road Banyo Biggles. Let me know what you think. You have more time than me. 

[Maxnettoz]

Then I tried a full face Kabuto Aeroblade 3 on,  As much as I like the flip ups like the Tourtech, Evoline etc.  This Aeroblade 3 is the best helmet I have worn.  Extremely light, reasonably quiet, fantastic vision, superb ventilation.  Picked it up for $350.00.  I give it a double thumbs up.  Not even thinking twice about not being a flip up (modular).  Behind the ST1300 screen or over it, I cannot sing enough praises.

Great price.  They're $373 + $55 postage from eBay USA.

Wheredja geddit?

Motorcycle Accessories Shop Nerang in Queensland.  It is a matte black and was floor stock.  I think graphics are a bit more expensive.  $375 was the sticker price.  The guys at Motorcycles Accessories Shop are very genuine and I buy all of my accessories there to support the "little guys".  They have never done the wrong thing by me and give good genuine advice.

[Kev Murphy]

I have a Nolan N102 flip front.
have discovered that I collect a lot of bugs under the external sunnys tho, as I mainly ride 'open face', except in wet conditions.
Higher than standard screen means that most bugs and rain are deflected above my face when travelling.

[Marcus]

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[alans1100]

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I might get that on the screen this time of the year but rarely does anything smaller than a bee get to the helmet

[Shaun]

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That's why they have a flip down option ;)
Out on the highway or anywhere with bugs, down it comes. Around town, up it goes.
For the record, I have the RJ's Tourtech carbon fibre one with the matt finish. So far so good.

[atoyot]

I've been missing my old flip face helmet and the final straw the other day was when I decided to fit my intercom to my Shark RSR2, as I usually use, my Earmolds with this helmet, but needed to use my intercom. Well it fitted ok, but I got sore ears after half an hour, so went on the hunt for a new flip-face. Short list was a Shoei Neotec, Shark Evoline, one of the HJC's, Nolan N102/104, and a few others that MCAS had in stock and my size.

The short of it was that the HJC Symax III felt absolutely great on my head, with ear room, comfortable in all the right places, and just felt right. Neotec didn't seem to fit my head shape and wasn't comfortable at all, Evoline felt like an icecream container, and the Nolans just didn't feel right at all.

I guess that what this proved to me is that helmet choice really does come down to how it feels on your head and how easy it is to get along with. I'm sure that if I did get another brand and type of helmet, it might "grow" around me, but apart from the chin curtain being a bit to close to my chin when flipping it up, the HJC was the only one that felt right from the word go.

I haven't ridden with it yet, so I guess that the proof will be in the eating, but I'll do a quick review after having done a few k's. Having said that, I can't see it being too noisy or awkward to use, but what I will be interested in is it's ability to vent, as this seems to be the only caveat in the reviews that I have read.

I bought it as floor stock from the Helmet Warehouse at Yagoona, and they were very helpful. Only $420 as well, so about the same price as the mid-range flip faces, and 1/2 price of a Neotec, and hopefully not half the quality - maybe 7/8's?

[Shillas]

Methinks it's time to open this thread up again, partly for selfish reasons as it's time to upgrade my helmet, with it coming up to its 5th birthday. Might be a few others looking as well, seeing as how this thread went quiet about 5 years ago and not too much mention of helmets in other threads (yes, I'm sure that there probably are, I just didn't go down a lot of rabbit holes)

I was wondering if anyone had bought one of the current crop of flip face / modular helmets in the recent past and what they though of them.

Found the following reviews, a number of those tested can be found here in Oz. The Nolan N100-5 seems to get a good review for price, noise etc.

https://billyscrashhelmets.co.uk/top-10-flip-up-crash-helmets/

https://motorbikewriter.com/best-modular-helmets/

Over to you all..

[ppopeye]

I just bought another Shark Evoline 3. I can wear it open or closed and they are cheap as I think the model is being discontinued. At slow speeds I love to wear it open and use it like that more than I probably should. I also like that when open it is right back, not on top acting as a sail. The old one is just over seven so I thought it was time especially as it was a bit worn on some of the soft material.


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[Brock]

The Shark evo3 is the only flip front certified for use open or closed, as the chin bar is flipped right out of the way and leaves the visors to be used as normal. It doesnt cause nay neck twisting drag when open

[StinkyPete]

I'm not a fan of flip fronts as I feel unprotected,  but accept that many like them.    One of my friends rides with the Shoei GT Air with the integrated Sena com set and he's pretty happy with the setup.

[ruSTynutz]

The Shark evo3 is the only flip front certified for use open or closed, as the chin bar is flipped right out of the way and leaves the visors to be used as normal. It doesnt cause nay neck twisting drag when open

It's not the only helmet, Brock...The Shoei Neotec 2 is also ECE. 22.05 certified as both an open-face and full-face helmet...
That was actually one of the reasons I purchased it, not that I ride around too often with it flipped up but it's nice to have the option should I have the urge. 

[NTRebel]

The Airoh Rev19 is also ECE.222.05 certified and flips right back like the Shark Evo.