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Re: p3's
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2012, 01:56:37 PM »
Based on feedback I've seen here in these forums I'd like to get me a pair of PR3 tyres for my ST1100.

Just looking at the Michelin brochure I don't see a 160/70 ZR17 (73W) even mentioned  :eek
Am I missing something here?

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Re: p3's
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2012, 02:02:31 PM »
Based on feedback I've seen here in these forums I'd like to get me a pair of PR3 tyres for my ST1100.

Just looking at the Michelin brochure I don't see a 160/70 ZR17 (73W) even mentioned  :eek
Am I missing something here?

In my defence:
1. I took a man look  :o
2. I'm tired  :crazy
3. I have headache that's been getting worse for hours  :||||
In need of some of these  :beer

No you haven't missed anything.........Only Avon and Bridgestone still have 160/70ZR17 tyres to suit 1100 OEM tyre specs.

Usually a 160/60 tyre gets fitted but the 170/60 tyre (1300) shouldn't be a problem.
 

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Re: p3's
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2012, 02:04:44 PM »
If you want the PR3, you will have to get a 170/60 rear, which works fine (it is ST13 size) - the 160/60 makes the rear sit a bit too low for my liking.  If a 110/80 x 18 front is not available, a 120/70 x 18 works fine as well (later ABS bikes uses the  wider front tyre anyway, but has a wider rim as well)
 

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Re: p3's
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2012, 02:39:26 PM »
Ah, thanks for that.

Would like to retain the OEM tyre size.

With reports of the Avons delaminating and the police using the Z6 tyres I guess I'll go for those.

I did find the Metzeler Z6 tyres available via Ebay:
At your door for $US 157.55

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metzeler-Roadtec-Z6-Rear-Tire-160-70ZR-17-TL-73W-/320991576542?hash=item4abc96c1de&item=320991576542&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr
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Re: p3's
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2012, 02:41:54 PM »
Mech, have just fitted a 170/60 to my 1100 and still plenty of room. Same OD as the 160/70.
Read your ebay site again, $79.99 for postage!!! That makes it dearer than the local ones.

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Re: p3's
« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2012, 02:44:12 PM »
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And you can do what I did and fitted a 180 /60 - 17 on my 1100 and yes they do fit very easily.

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Re: p3's
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2012, 02:46:50 PM »
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And you can do what I did and fitted a 180 /60 - 17 on my 1100 and yes they do fit very easily.

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Just looking at what that means: http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/tirecalc.php?tires=160-70r17-180-60r17
It looks like a better fit than the 170/60 option.
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Re: p3's
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2012, 02:52:08 PM »
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well I am very happy with the PR3's   :grin :grin :grin

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Re: p3's
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2012, 03:07:36 PM »
Good find Mech, saves a lot of button punching on calculator.

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« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2012, 03:22:10 PM »
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And you can do what I did and fitted a 180 /60 - 17 on my 1100 and yes they do fit very easily.

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Can you do a visual check on your rear tyre for me? Is it a 180/60 or a 180/55?
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« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2012, 03:38:42 PM »
I have used a few Avons over the years and had zero problems.  I would not hesitate to use them again, but availabilty and the price compared to others I get from www.jakewilson.com are now factors (and I think that rear would be a 180/55 but it must be a 'narrow' one as I had a 170/60 that was a real tight squeeze to fit)
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« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2012, 04:09:46 PM »
I'll stick with Bridgestone 023's in the original sizes. No-one has yet been able to tell me definitively what effect different rear tyre sizes will have on the ABS operation. I know the difference between 170/60 and 160/70 is 3% (170 slightly smaller) but how much will the ABS cope with? Is there an expert out there who will definitively say the ABS computer won't have a problem when it's needed.



                                                                    Current Tire                                          New Tire                 Difference
Diameter inches (mm)                                   25.82 (655.8 )                                          25.03 (635.8 )         -0.79 (-20) -3%
Width inches (mm)                                           6.3 (160)                                                  6.69 (170)                  0.39 (10) 6.3%
Circum. inches (mm)                                           81.11 (2060.26)                                  78.64 (1997.42)      -2.47 (-62.83) -3%
Sidewall Height inches (mm)                           4.41 (112)                                          4.02 (102)                  -0.39 (-10) -8.9%
Revolutions per mile (km)                                   781.14 (485.38 )                                  805.71 (500.64)   24.57 (15.27) 3.1%
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Re: p3's
« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2012, 04:18:24 PM »
As tipsy has done a PR3 in 180/55/17 fits fine on the St1100 no problem with removing and replacing easy fit just makes the bike stand up more upright on the side stand
 

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Re: p3's
« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2012, 06:15:39 PM »
I don't have ABS to worry about but I will try to stick with OEM sizes.
The Metzeler Z6, Bridgestone or Dunlop are my only options.
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Re: p3's
« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2012, 07:14:42 PM »
My new PR3 rear is a 170/60 ZR 17
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Re: p3's
« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2012, 07:14:57 PM »
Looks like Dunlop has released a tyre in 1100 sizes which they dropped in the Roadsmart 1 series.

Sportmax RoadSmart II

http://www.dunloptyres.com.au/dotAsset/6e81a89a-945a-4231-9e8e-7ac5fabf58c3.pdf
 

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« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2012, 08:36:10 PM »
I tried the first Roadsmart and it was nothing special. It is ok though, but no more.

I have used non-OEM size front and back on non-ABS over the years with no issues.  Brand and type of tyre seems to be more of an issue than size.