Author Topic: Paint Defect (Read 7121 times)

StinkyPete · « **on:** January 31, 2014, 09:13:22 AM »

I put this in "General" as I wasn't sure where else it would fit.

The other day I discovered a small bubble in the paint on my Right Side Cover, just forward of the pannier latch. It has a small penetrating defect in the centre of the bubble. I consulted with a spray painter who advised that painting plastic is always fraught with difficulties and it is never an easy tasks to get paint to adhere well to plastic, despite using specialist paint primers. A chip in paint on plastic is an invitation for moisture, polish etc to creep under the paint and cause it to lift, and this problem will be exacerbated by the use of silicon sprays on the paint, such as Mr Sheen, which I regularly use after cleaning the bike. There are no other areas that have bubbled, including the lower front tip of the Middle Cowl, which has picked up a few stone chips from the front wheel. I've posted this just for information.

One photo shows the location of the defect in the black circle, and the other is a close-up of the defect. Individual markers on the scale are 0.5mm.

STeveo · « **Reply #1 on:** January 31, 2014, 11:42:55 AM »

Needs an Ozstoc sticker over it.

TAZZIEBAZ · « **Reply #2 on:** January 31, 2014, 03:27:37 PM »

The close up makes it look nasty, I hope it's not contagious!! Unfortunately I can't offer any advice on repairing it as I'm not a spray painter, but if it was mine I might be inclined to stick a small vinyl sticker over it, I doubt the OzSToc sticker would fit, perhaps a small clear vinyl sticker, if only to prevent moisture or silicon further contaminating it. Or.............you could always sell it and buy a

bike

StinkyPete · « **Reply #3 on:** January 31, 2014, 03:49:07 PM »

Quote from: Couch on January 31, 2014, 03:27:37 PM

Or.............you could always sell it and buy a bike

Trade

for

. You must be joking...........

TAZZIEBAZ · « **Reply #4 on:** January 31, 2014, 03:52:44 PM »

You're right Pete, it wouldn't be a fair trade, you'd need a heap of cash to go with it

StinkyPete · « **Reply #5 on:** January 31, 2014, 03:58:33 PM »

I think the solution is to live with it as long as I can, and if it gets too big I'll go and find a spray painter.
I see the bloody thing every time I look at the bike now.

Williamson · « **Reply #6 on:** January 31, 2014, 04:27:59 PM »

I noticed a number of small scratches, stone chips etc... on my CB1300 after I got new specs, went back to old specs, problem solved.

HunterTodd · « **Reply #7 on:** January 31, 2014, 04:35:14 PM »

I know what you mean about noticing a blemish your eye goes staright to it. I have a tiny chip in my rack and I never fail to spot it.

Thanks for the tip about Mr Sheen. That used to part of my routine. Did the painter reckon it was worth trying to get it off?

To fix yours t may be worth trying to buy another panel the same colour off a wrecked bike. They are fairly light so you could even go O/s for one.

StinkyPete · « **Reply #8 on:** January 31, 2014, 04:42:54 PM »

Quote from: HunterTodd on January 31, 2014, 04:35:14 PM

Thanks for the tip about Mr Sheen. That used to part of my routine. Did the painter reckon it was worth trying to get it off?

I'm told that if you use it once, it's there forever, and can't be painted over. It must be deeply sanded to get rid of it. However, I will keep using Mr Sheen, simply because it does such a good job and gives a great finish to a clean.

Sicman · « **Reply #9 on:** February 01, 2014, 02:21:51 PM »

Pete - I use FW1.com.au - Dissolves those bugs very quickly

StinkyPete · « **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2014, 02:28:31 PM »

Quote from: Sicman on February 01, 2014, 02:21:51 PM

Pete - I use FW1.com.au - Dissolves those bugs very quickly

Which product Tony, as they have a fair range?

Brian · « **Reply #11 on:** February 01, 2014, 05:00:10 PM »

I'm a big fan of their polish wax and have been for a while

Sicman · « **Reply #12 on:** February 01, 2014, 05:17:15 PM »

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Which product Tony, as they have a fair range?
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General cleaner Pete - You can buy it in a box of 6 to make it cheaper to buy and comes with the cleaning and buffing clothes. One tin lasts me 6 months depending on how much riding I am doing

Greencan · « **Reply #13 on:** February 03, 2014, 04:25:08 PM »

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I consulted with a spray painter who advised that painting plastic is always fraught with difficulties and it is never an easy tasks to get paint to adhere well to plastic, despite using specialist paint primers.

And he is spot on

The principal reason isn't too had understand why, if you remember that the plastics used on ST's are all by-products of the petroleum industry. As such given time, environment and age they will all begin to leach some of the product they derived from.

Pretty much the same rationale applies to welding, gluing, bounding these ABS plastics. At some point given time, environment etc,etc...the repair will fail.

Not very helpful I grant you...I think tho Ozstoc's resident bugle player may offer a fix using a wee bottle of matching nail paint of.

Cheers the can :-)

STill dreaming · « **Reply #14 on:** February 03, 2014, 05:35:18 PM »

I can see how that would drive you mad looking at it.I would not put an OZstoc sticker over it as i have stickers all over my tool box ,and the only one that has peeled off is the ozstoc sticker ,not really good enough i think,may need a better provider.

Biggles · « **Reply #15 on:** February 03, 2014, 05:43:36 PM »

Like Brian, I'm also a frequent user of FW1, the "Cleaning Wax" with Carnauba.
It's not cheap, but you don't use much. You can also haggle with the seller, as they are all independent franchisees.
They sell in supermarket car parks around the country, and you can find your next local seller (they move around) by going to www.fw1.com.au.
Kiwis peering in here but unable to swim or afford the airfare, might look at www.fw1.co.nz.
They sell a kit including a can of carpet shampoo and a tyre spray. I insist on a deal with only the Cleaning Wax.
It has alcohol, silicon or ammonia and is safe on everything.
Removes tar, grime, bugs, sap,grease and "more" (whatever that is).

ST2UP · « **Reply #16 on:** February 03, 2014, 05:45:26 PM »

Could have it been astray drop of DOT4 that started the blemish.....it's in the right spot for a little oops topping up the rear res...... just say'in

StinkyPete · « **Reply #17 on:** February 03, 2014, 05:52:09 PM »

One positive in all of this is that I learned how to take a decent "close-up" photo using the Macro setting on my little point and shoot camera.

TAZZIEBAZ · « **Reply #18 on:** February 03, 2014, 08:15:36 PM »

Good thought, that would certainly do it!

Quote from: ST2UP on February 03, 2014, 05:45:26 PM

Could have it been astray drop of DOT4 that started the blemish.....it's in the right spot for a little oops topping up the rear res...... just say'in

StinkyPete · « **Reply #19 on:** February 26, 2014, 04:54:31 PM »

Good News End to this Thread
Some time after I last had the bike serviced, I noticed wetness around the front brake reservoir. Several drips of fluid have marked the top of the right side "Pie Warmer" lid, and it was some time after this that I noticed the defect in the paint on the right side cover, which was the subject of this thread. I found that the rubber seal on the brake reservoir was out of place and this was the source of the leak. A few weeks ago I was chatting to the service manager at Moto Adelaide (Honda World), and mentioned the fluid leak to him. He had a look at the lid and panel and said he would see what he could do.

Today he rang me and said that my parts had come in?? I had ordered none! Moto Adelaide (Honda World) have given me a new Right Side Cover, and a new Right Pie Warmer Lid and seal, to replace those marked by the brake fluid leak. I did not ask for these parts, or for any particular action by Moto Adelaide (Honda World) following the leak, as the damage was very minimal, and it was something I could live with.

They have acted promptly, professionally and done more than I could have asked for to rectify the damage. Well Done to Moto Adelaide.

who have always given me great service.

Gordo · « **Reply #20 on:** February 26, 2014, 05:17:25 PM »

It is always good to hear these sorts of stories as they do tend to be few and far between. Great outcome for all.

Gordo

Biggles · « **Reply #21 on:** February 26, 2014, 05:55:10 PM »

Now I can't decide! Do I move to NSW for their lane filtering or Adelaide for their great Honda service!

Glad to read a positive report on a Dealer. Hopefully his reputation will spread far and wide and profit him.

Brian · « **Reply #22 on:** February 26, 2014, 06:22:21 PM »

well done .... A guy that deserves his title of Service Manager

Brian · « **Reply #23 on:** February 26, 2014, 06:23:34 PM »

I'll be in Adelaide next Monday ...... I'm gonna visit these guys

Abe · « **Reply #24 on:** February 26, 2014, 07:51:43 PM »

What a great outcome.

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