Questions regarding OZSTOC SS1600K

[tj189]

Please ask your questions here

[Abe]

•   All riders will be logged in and signed off on the Group Ride spreadsheet (an example is attached)

Trevor is there a link or did I miss it???

Many thanks for your efforts 

[tj189]

Thanks ABE,  I have deleted that part so as to not have any confusion. There will be a spreadsheet at the start and finish to log in odometer readings and signatures etc

[Gadget]

TJ,


Can you put the link to this post in the Expressions of interest Post?


Assuming sticking to the speed limits, I'm guessing if riding only to stop for fuel and food the anticipated arrival times to:


a:  Pennant Hills 7:30 to 8:00 am
b: Gundagai  11:30  am to 12: 00 noon
c: Campbelltown 2:45  to 3:15 pm
d: Newcastle 4:30  to 5:00 pm
e: Coffs Harbour 9:00  to 10 :00 pm


Is that how you see it TJ or do you have a planned stop for a kip somewhere?

[Biggles]

I'm sure TJ will have a better longer reply, but my 2 bob's worth is the SS1600 allows 4 hours sleep.  I always take 3 hours (did it in Dubbo enroute Ballarat).  Everyone is different and needs it at different times.  Some might like to split the cost of a motel room for the time.

[tj189]

Thank you Gary, added the link 

Mate, in short your timings are around the mark.  Each of us will ride differently so will have different times.  The minimum OA for a SS1600K is approximately 74Kph, I would expect our OA to be above that, considering that we have a large amount of 110Kph speed limits.  Riders will take breaks at times that suit them and their riding abilities, so there are no planned breaks where riders have to stop, it is up to the rider.  I will list a range of refueling locations that will allow for riders to choose when and where they refuel.  I will also list a number of Rest Areas as well.  That information will come out in the package that will be sent out to riders that are confirmed on the eventual list.

TJ,


Can you put the link to this post in the Expressions of interest Post?


Assuming sticking to the speed limits, I'm guessing if riding only to stop for fuel and food the anticipated arrival times to:


a:  Pennant Hills 7:30 to 8:00 am
b: Gundagai  11:30  am to 12: 00 noon
c: Campbelltown 2:45  to 3:15 pm
d: Newcastle 4:30  to 5:00 pm
e: Coffs Harbour 9:00  to 10 :00 pm


Is that how you see it TJ or do you have a planned stop for a kip somewhere?

[Yorkie]

I would guess the Westies are not included in this?

[tj189]

of course the Westies are included as are any OZSTOC rider,  if you would like to come over then please feel welcome.

[ST2UP]

I would guess the Westies are not included in this?

of course the Westies are included as are any OZSTOC rider,  if you would like to come over then please feel welcome.

Had to start somewhere.....starting the ride in the middle of the highest populated portion of the OzSTOC  demographic gave the best possible chance of reaching the numbers for a successful IBA SS1600k..... but rest assured this wont be the last if we can prove this a viable concept.


 

[Gadget]

Thanks TJ,


Discussed it with the wife and it looks quite possible.


Things we've thought each rider might need to consider include:


Being prepared (financially and psychologically) for emergency accommodation should a rider decide to pull out due to fatigue or breakdown.


Possibly stay in Coffs a couple of nights in advance to ensure well rested before the start in the wee hours of the morning.


Possibly plan for a couple of nights stay in Coffs afterwards to recuperate to ensure a safe trip home.








Quote from: tj189 on 30 March 2014, 13:04:21<blockquote>Thank you Gary, added the link 

Mate, in short your timings are around the mark.  Each of us will ride differently so will have different times.  The minimum OA for a SS1600K is approximately 74Kph, I would expect our OA to be above that, considering that we have a large amount of 110Kph speed limits.  Riders will take breaks at times that suit them and their riding abilities, so there are no planned breaks where riders have to stop, it is up to the rider.  I will list a range of refueling locations that will allow for riders to choose when and where they refuel.  I will also list a number of Rest Areas as well.  That information will come out in the package that will be sent out to riders that are confirmed on the eventual list.


Quote from: Gadget (Gary) on 30 March 2014, 11:09:45<blockquote>TJ,


Can you put the link to this post in the Expressions of interest Post?


Assuming sticking to the speed limits, I'm guessing if riding only to stop for fuel and food the anticipated arrival times to:


a:  Pennant Hills 7:30 to 8:00 am
b: Gundagai  11:30  am to 12: 00 noon
c: Campbelltown 2:45  to 3:15 pm
d: Newcastle 4:30  to 5:00 pm
e: Coffs Harbour 9:00  to 10 :00 pm


Is that how you see it TJ or do you have a planned stop for a kip somewhere?
</blockquote>

</blockquote>

[ST2UP]

We are negotiating a deal with a small Motel in Coffs Harbour in a quiet traffic free location away from the usual Friday/Saturday night party central noises......few minutes from the start location, Bowling club near by for meals, Coffee shop on the corner   

Watch this space 

[sargent]

We are negotiating a deal with a small Motel in Coffs Harbour in a quiet traffic free location away from the usual Friday/Saturday night party central noises......few minutes from the start location, Bowling club near by for meals, Coffee shop on the corner   

Watch this space 

Hey. No coffee or sugar allowed... It did say so in the IBA best tips section.

[tj189]

The ideas from Gary above good points, personally I will be there the day before and leave the day after.

Here is a link to an article which is posted up elsewhere on our forum regarding fatigue management, it too is worthwhile reading....  http://www.rcmedic.com/images/MotorcycleFatigue.pdf  there is a bit in there regarding caffeine

[single]

Probably a silly question but do you have to have done a Farride before you can do this?

I am planning on doing one before hand but just in case.

Silly question no.2 can I start in Campbelltown meet the group in Coffs and finish in Campbelltown?

[Streak]

Probably a silly question but do you have to have done a Farride before you can do this?

Short answer: No, this has nothing to do with FarRiders, IBA is a completely separate organisation.

Silly question no.2 can I start in Campbelltown meet the group in Coffs and finish in Campbelltown?

For this Special event the answer is also no, you can organize your own, but it wont be an "OzSTOC IBA SS1600" event.

[single]

Probably a silly question but do you have to have done a Farride before you can do this?

Short answer: No, this has nothing to do with FarRiders, IBA is a completely separate organisation.

Silly question no.2 can I start in Campbelltown meet the group in Coffs and finish in Campbelltown?

For this Special event the answer is also no, you can organize your own, but it wont be an "OzSTOC IBA SS1600" event.

thanks for the quick response.
I have a sister at Woolgoolga so I can make aweek of it.

[SToz]

TJ,

Is certified by the IBA USA or the IBA AUS??

Cheers Buddy!

[Streak]

TJ,

Is certified by the IBA USA or the IBA AUS??

Cheers Buddy!

This is certified by IBA USA.

[SToz]

TJ,

Is certified by the IBA USA or the IBA AUS??

Cheers Buddy!

This is certified by IBA USA.

 

[tj189]

  thanks for the quick responses Streak

[Lionel]

TJ, I've just re-read the IBA SaddleSore 1600K, 2000K and Bun Burner 2500K Guidelines last revised on 4 March 2014.
Firstly, I found nothing in the IBA rules concerning waivers, showing driver's licences or proof of personal injury and property damage liability insurance coverage. Did I miss these IBA requirements for a group ride or is this an OzSTOC embellishment?
I'd like to nominate for the ride though I'd like the opportunity to read the waiver before I confirm my attendance and pay the non-refundable fee.
Secondly, I did find the following two sentences in the IBA rules which seem to indicate that the riders in a group IBA ride are to travel together:
"When planning a ride, keep in mind that group rides are only as fast as the slowest person in the group (italics mine). This can extend your riding day many hours pushing you toward fatigue."
Can we check if riders in a group IBA ride are required to travel together, eg, stop at the same petrol stations, rest point(s)?
Thanks, Lionel

[tj189]

will get back to you very shortly

[ST2UP]

I was just having a yarn with Trevor and he has got considerable information direct from the IBA in regards to group IBA rides.....he is just putting it all together to post here for us all. 

He is a little snowed under at the moment.....but watch this space 

[tj189]

Great questions Lionel, appreciate you taking the time to ask them.  I will attempt to cover your areas of concern.

If I may the second question first, may I direct you and others to the information I posted in the EOI post regarding the following:
"A few recommendations:
 
•   It is strongly recommended that you read the IBA Archive of Wisdom located here http://www.ironbutt.com/tech/aowprintout.cfm
•   Read the Saddle Sore history and rules located here http://www.ironbutt.com/ridecerts/getdocument.cfm?DocID=30
•   Riders are encouraged to ride at their own pace, as opposed to riding as a single, monolithic group - it's much safer and more efficient.  Riders will naturally ride in small groups (two or three riders) based upon riding style, fuel range, bladder size, etc."

you will notice the third dot point, this is a direct quote from the information given from the IBA regarding group rides  (I will post you a copy of this information, it will be part of the information package that participants get, should others wish the information prior to then please request it).

Now the first question gets the same answer, and it obviously would be in the package sent out to participants, I will send this with the other information in an email to you.  It is not an embellishment from OZSTOC but a requirement from the IBA.

I must admit that this was an EOI, you have done well in voicing your interest and what concerns you.  Hopefully I have answered your concerns and you will shortly receive the information promised above.

would you mind checking my profile and sending me a quick email so as I can send the information please?
TJ
 

TJ, I've just re-read the IBA SaddleSore 1600K, 2000K and Bun Burner 2500K Guidelines last revised on 4 March 2014.
Firstly, I found nothing in the IBA rules concerning waivers, showing driver's licences or proof of personal injury and property damage liability insurance coverage. Did I miss these IBA requirements for a group ride or is this an OzSTOC embellishment?
I'd like to nominate for the ride though I'd like the opportunity to read the waiver before I confirm my attendance and pay the non-refundable fee.
Secondly, I did find the following two sentences in the IBA rules which seem to indicate that the riders in a group IBA ride are to travel together:
"When planning a ride, keep in mind that group rides are only as fast as the slowest person in the group (italics mine). This can extend your riding day many hours pushing you toward fatigue."
Can we check if riders in a group IBA ride are required to travel together, eg, stop at the same petrol stations, rest point(s)?
Thanks, Lionel

[Lionel]

Thanks TJ.
PM sent