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Spare a moment of reflection for the man who told his wife he was going on a business trip to China on that Malaysian Airlines Flight 370, and now can't come out of his girlfriend's flat.

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Re: Spare a thought for this flight 370 victim...............
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2014, 08:26:54 AM »
I like this theory:-
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Subject:  Israel's views of missing MH370 / MH 370 - a conspiracy theory.

Have you heard of this conspiracy theory re the disappearance of MH 370? The story goes like this:

The American is withdrawing from the Afghanistan, one of their command and control system (used for controlling the pilotless drones) was hijacked by the Taleban’s when the American transport convoy was moving down from one of the hill top bases. The Taleban’s ambushed the convoy and killed 2 American Seal personnel, seized the equipment/weapons, including the command and control system which weighed about 20 tons and packed into 6 crates. This happened about a month ago in Feb 2014.

What the Taleban’s want is money. They want to sell the system to the Russian or the Chinese. The Russian is too busy in Ukraine. The Chinese are hungry for the system's technology. Just imagine if the Chinese master the technology behind the command and control system, all the American drones will become useless. So the Chinese sent 8 top defence scientists to check the system and agreed to pay millions for it.

Sometime in early Mar 2014, the 8 scientists and the 6 crates made their way to Malaysia, thinking that it was the best covert way to avoid detection. The cargo was then kept in the Embassy under diplomatic protection.  Meanwhile the American has engaged the assistance of Israeli intelligence, and together they are determined to intercept and recapture the cargo.

The Chinese calculated that it will be safe to transport it via civilian aircraft so as to avoid suspicion. After all the direct flight from KL to Beijing takes only 4 and half hours, and the American will not hijack or harm the civilian. So MH370 is the perfect carrier.

There are 5 American and Israeli agents onboard who are familiar with Boeing operation. The 2 "Iranians" with stolen passports could be among them.

When MH370 is about to leave the Malaysian air space and reporting to Vietnamese air control, one American AWAC jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and switched over to remote control mode. That was when the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily.

How the AWAC can do it?  Remember 911 incident?  After the 911 incident, all Boeing aircraft (and possibly all Airbus) are installed with remote control system to counter terrorist hijacking. Since then all the Boeing could be remote controlled by ground control tower. The same remote control system used to control the pilotless spy aircraft and drones.

The 5 American/Israeli agents soon took over the plane, switched off the transponder and other communication system, changed course and flew westwards. They dare not fly east to Philippines or Guam because the whole South China Sea air space was covered by Chinese surveillance radar and satellite.

The Malaysian, Thai and Indian military radars actually detected the unidentified aircraft but did not react professionally.

The plane flew over North Sumatra, Anambas, South India and then landed at Maldives (some villagers saw the aircraft landing), refuelled and continued its flight to Garcia Deigo, the American Air Base in the middle of Indian Ocean. The cargo and the black box were removed. The passengers were silenced via natural means, lack of oxygen. They believe only dead person will not talk. The MH370 with dead passengers were air borne again via remote control and crashed into South Indian Ocean, make it to believe that the plane eventually ran out of fuel and crashed, and blame the defiant captain and co-pilot.

The American has put up a good show. First diverting all the attention and search effort in the South China Sea while the plane made their way to Indian Ocean. Then they came out with some conflicting statement and evidence to confuse the world. The Australian is the co-actor.

The amount of effort put up by China, in terms of the number of search aircraft, ships and satellites, searching first the South China Sea, then the Malacca Straits and the Indian Ocean  is unprecedented. This showed that the China is very concerned, not so much because of the many Chinese civilian passengers, but mainly the high value cargo and its 8 top defence scientists.

Don't believe the story? I don't expect you to but let's wait and see how the episode unveils itself. Or perhaps it will never be known until the next Snowden emerges.
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Re: Spare a thought for this flight 370 victim...............
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2014, 08:27:38 AM »
Not only that, but his pay will stop, cant draw from the bank and the Girlfriend wants to kick him out ( cos no money)

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Re: Spare a thought for this flight 370 victim...............
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2014, 06:43:35 PM »
Glen, with all these stories (911 included) there are so many 'red herrings' that we will probably never know.


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Re: Spare a thought for this flight 370 victim...............
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2014, 07:08:09 PM »
Someones been connecting of lot of dots. Probably just as good as the next theory right now but most likely the truth will be more mundane. 

I am think what  a lot of aircarft "experts" are saying is most likely the truth.

There was some sort of indident which caused a catastrophic  decompression, rendered the emergency O2 supply u/s and damaged the flight surfaces on the aircraft.

 Not causing enough damage to bring it down but enough to cause it to fly erratically. Auotpilot could not correct the flightpath and the pilots were dead. Plane flies on an erractic course which is hard to trace until it runs out of fuel in the Southern Indian Ocean.

Unlikely?  Have a look what a siezed bearing in a turbine did to a Qantas A380 over Singapore. And way more likely than transnational clandestine battles between superpowers.

Sounds like a good plot for the next Bourne movie though.

 

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Re: Spare a thought for this flight 370 victim...............
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2014, 07:51:03 AM »
There was some sort of indident which caused a catastrophic  decompression, rendered the emergency O2 supply u/s and damaged the flight surfaces on the aircraft.

In which case Boeing really does have a lot to worry about!

There are a few too many redundancies to allow that to happen.  For a start, people don't die instantly when there is a decompression.  Look at that kid who flew from LA to Hawaii in a 767 wheel well at 37,000 feet for 5 hours and survived both lack of oxygen and minus 67o temps.
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Re: Spare a thought for this flight 370 victim...............
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2014, 08:26:45 AM »
I love conspiracy theories.   :popcorn :popcorn
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Re: Spare a thought for this flight 370 victim...............
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2014, 10:42:56 AM »
I can't remember all the details but a couple of years ago, a FIFO plane left Perth (I think) with about 15 passengers on board and headed north.

Appears there was an air leak on the plane which caused all passengers and crew to go to sleep.

Plane was shadowed by a Royal Flying Dr plane until the disabled plane crashed in the middle of Queensland killing all POB's after the plane ran out of fuel.

I think they found the cause of the air leak was a leakng windscreen seal.

Don't know how quick the passengers went to sleep and I presume that on larger aircraft there should be equipment to advise of decrompression in the cabin (unless it was quick).

I still like the original version above and Glen should consider recording his thoughts for his share of the future movie profits.


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Re: Spare a thought for this flight 370 victim...............
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2014, 12:07:01 PM »
I think they found the cause of the air leak was a leakng windscreen seal.

Don't know how quick the passengers went to sleep and I presume that on larger aircraft there should be equipment to advise of decrompression in the cabin (unless it was quick).

There's warnings for what's called "high altitude condition" (= low cabin air pressure) on all pressurised aircraft.  Duplicates on transport ones.  I know the event you're referring to and can't recall the reason they came up with for the pilot's not getting or heeding the warning.  I think it was a Kingair that was lost.
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Re: Spare a thought for this flight 370 victim...............
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2014, 12:18:32 PM »
KINGAIR sounds like the one as I remember getting into a similar plane and flying to Karratha thinking at the time, "This is a flash plane."   

I was sitting next to the pilot during the flight and he was bragging how good the kingair was and what it could do. Didn't help those poor blokes.
 

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Re: Spare a thought for this flight 370 victim...............
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2014, 12:21:57 PM »
KINGAIR sounds like the one as I remember getting into a similar plane and flying to Karratha thinking at the time, "This is a flash plane."   

I was sitting next to the pilot during the flight and he was bragging how good the kingair was and what it could do. Didn't help those poor blokes.

Beechcraft build beautiful planes, and it's seldom the plane that causes the loss of passengers.
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Re: Spare a thought for this flight 370 victim...............
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2014, 07:43:34 PM »
There was some sort of indident which caused a catastrophic  decompression, rendered the emergency O2 supply u/s and damaged the flight surfaces on the aircraft.

In which case Boeing really does have a lot to worry about!

There are a few too many redundancies to allow that to happen.  For a start, people don't die instantly when there is a decompression.  Look at that kid who flew from LA to Hawaii in a 767 wheel well at 37,000 feet for 5 hours and survived both lack of oxygen and minus 67o temps.


I can't agree Biggles. Have you seen ay of the interviews with the pilot of that A380.  Redundancy didn't help them. Within seconds virtually every system on that plane shutdown. The list of errors being reported was so vast that the planes computers shat themselves.
 They landed the plane using there own notebooks, the throttles, a couple of functional control surfaces an incredible amount of skill from the pilots and some sheer dumb luck. The Captain admitted he was dead lucky to be on a check flight and had i think three other senior pilots in the cockpit. He would not have been able to process the information with out their help.

Furthermore  there was a JAL plane brought down because the emergency oxygen supply bottles exploded and took out the tail. The plane flew on for quite some time before it crashed.

I always find it amazing  when something  occurs which can't be explained immediatley  someone with an over active imagination will invent a conspicary theory or assign a supernatural cause to it.

Pounds to peanuts there will be a perfectly rational cause for this disaster. They just haven't found it yet. Maybe they never wlll.

But that don't mean aliens took the plane.


 

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Re: Spare a thought for this flight 370 victim...............
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2014, 08:03:54 PM »



I can't agree Biggles. Have you seen ay of the interviews with the pilot of that A380.  Redundancy didn't help them. Within seconds virtually every system on that plane shutdown. The list of errors being reported was so vast that the planes computers shat themselves.


This one was on "Air Confidential" last night.

 

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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2014, 04:20:37 PM »
There was a small single engine plane lost in the Barrington Ranges in the early '80s, was only found last year.
 

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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2014, 05:09:45 PM »
Remember this one. It put me off buying a Learjet at the time.
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MINA, S.D., Oct. 26—Investigators said today they probably will never be able to tell from pathological tests whether champion golfer Payne Stewart and five others died of oxygen deprivation before their Learjet nosedived into a cow pasture in this remote corner of northeastern South Dakota on Monday.
Federal safety officials also said a voice recorder inside the cockpit of the doomed plane probably will be useless because it likely only has a recording of the final 30 minutes of the flight, by which time there was no sign of life on board.
Crash investigators began painstakingly sifting through the wreckage of the Learjet that carried Stewart and the others to their deaths after a ghostly four-hour flight with the pilots and passengers apparently dead from suspected depressurization--or decompression--of the cabin.
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Shortly after the plane took off Monday morning on a flight plan that called for an altitude of 39,000 feet, the aircraft inexplicably climbed in a rapid ascent to 41,000 feet. It veered off its intended course to Dallas, on a 1,400-mile path across the nation, shadowed by Air Force F-16 fighters whose pilots were helpless to do anything but watch the aircraft eventually spiral earthward and crash.


 

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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2014, 05:10:31 PM »
Didn't the yanks lose a whole flight of Hellcats or something east of Florida that were never found, it's always been blamed it on the Bermuda Triangle.
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