Travel cost break down

[Marcus]

Hey guys with WA rally fast approaching. I'm interested in what the travel cost would be ride either one or both ways.

Can someone give a detailed breakdown on what us easterners would need to put aside for the trip.

How much for fuel?
How much for accommodation?
I'm assuming food would be standard pub prices.

I'm guessing 3-4 days worth of travel?

As I've never ridden across. I've no idea what I'm in for. Also as so many will be travelling across at the same time. Is there enough accommodation?

All stupid questions for you guys I'm sure but I'm in the dark.

Thanks

 

[saaz]

I think we might create a WA rally thread, and put this in as an edited version at some stage to assist all those intending to ride across.

Something like this thread is a start, on fuel availability. http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=6682.0


 Information on places to stay etc are around in one place or the other.

Just someone make sure Tipsy knows that he might have to leave a week early this time!

[StinkyPete]

Here's a full cost breakdown of a 51 day tour I did in 2009.   I was with two other riders, and we stayed in Caravan Parks using the camp kitchens, and shared a single site wherever possible for our tents.   We did most of our own cooking.  Costs would have increased since then, but it may serve as a guide for doing a trip "on the cheap".

Total Distance      16,314 km
Fuel Cost         $1062.30
Fuel Litres         794.14 litres
Accommodation   $967.50
Food            $1196.65
All Other         $561.60
Total Trip Cost      $4582.19

Total Average per day    $89 per day

Average Food per day          $23
Average Accom per day          $18.97
Overall Fuel consumption     5.9 lt/100 km

Savings could be made if I was disciplined enough to minimize purchase of cold drinks and lunches, and put up the tent a little more often, rather than getting cabin when I've been tired and hot.

[Marcus]

I'm talking about just the cost for getting over there. Not the other 48 days. And non camping options

[Brock]

Pezzz and Gavo should be able to give some info, hopefully they recorded the cost per litre at the various servos.

Accomodation costs,maybe not so much, you may have to contact the motels along the way for that info.

[StinkyPete]

I'm talking about just the cost for getting over there. Not the other 48 days. And non camping options

Working on $1.90 per litre (fair estimate) and 5.9 l/100km, that works out to be around $11.20 per 100km for fuel.
Hard accommodation could be around $50 - $100 per night.  See http://www.nullarbornet.com.au/towns/nullarbor.html as a guide
Food is whatever you want to spend, but in 2009 cold drinks, burgers and everything else was quite expensive on the way across.  (I seem to recall $17 for a take-away burger at Balladonia)

[alans1100]

Pete that is not doing it on the cheap.

I'll just put down an estimate of my next trip across and take into account I have a trailer:-

Apart from food the greatest expense for me is fuel and depending how much fuel is in the tank will depend if I fuel at Home or wait until I get to Port Augusta.

My fuel stop map. https://goo.gl/maps/VPztX  2731 km @ 15 K/L (average when towing)= 182 litres @ $2/L = $364 so I allow $400 one way. Between Nundroo and Mundrabilla I will use the 20 litres extra fuel and refill them there and I will use them again before getting to Norseman. The extra 20 litres of fuel gives me about 720 km before I need to worry about it
Accommodation equals zero as I camp free along the way. I pay a couple dollars in a roadhouse for a shower a long the way.
Food: I have in the trailer but usually buy takeaway if lunch and a fuel stop coincide (rare) but usually buy in supermarket at Ceduna and including ice maybe $25 a day for one.

Four day trip for me:-
Fuel $400
Food $100

Total $500 but allow $600 one way or $1200 for the return trip.

Sometimes when I get back to Ceduna I can't be bothered setting up the tent so I book into the Airport Caravan Park for about $70 in a motel style unit.

[StinkyPete]

Pete that is not doing it on the cheap.

No, but Marcus was asking about hard accom and pub meals.   However, I reckon that $89 per day, including food, fuel and accommodation is cheap......

[saaz]

On the Border Run in August I should be going all the way across, so can see how things stand then.  If you allow for $2 a litre fuel, a bit more than usual for food if you buy it and at least $70 for a place to stay (can be less sharing) that will get you close to an upper budget. Depends how much fuel the bike uses normally and the distance from home. Do remember there can be strong head winds so more fuel to use and less range from a tank. Fuel stops are close enough to each other for an ST during the day.

It will take a while to piece together the accommodation side of things as there are some pubs to stay at, and caravan park/motel style places.

Keep on putting ideas or links up, as it can all be edited down later 

[alans1100]

Pete that is not doing it on the cheap.

No, but Marcus was asking about hard accom and pub meals.   However, I reckon that $89 per day, including food, fuel and accommodation is cheap......

I was just comparing my version of rich to your version of cheap. Even my over estimated cost works out to about $150 a day just for the 4 day ride but probably closer to $115 in reality.

I had a meal in Mundrabilla and the cost was about $25 in March last year when I went to Port Hedland in the car.

Fuel costs were then at:

Port Augusta $1.52
Penong $ 1.65 (usually cheaper than Ceduna)
Eucla $1.96
Norseman $1.74 (surprising the Territory made the 700 km from Eucla)
Kalgoorlie $1.50

[Lionel]

On my first crossing East West I refuelled at Border Village, then discovered Eucla fuel in WA, approx 15 kms west of Border Village, was 10 cents a litre cheaper.
I also avoid Nullabor as they confiscate your licence before you can refuel; there can be delays. Therefore after filling up in Ceduna, I top up in Penong, approx 72 kms west of Ceduna, so I can reach Eucla without having to stop at Nullabor.
I may take my trailer to the rally.
For those crossing at night you can get 24 hr fuel and accommodation at Border Village, Caiguna and Norseman.
Like Saaz I hope to do the Border Run in August and then ride to the west coast.

[Yorkie]

If we combine our cost for BR15 with the likes of Saaz it will give a good indication, we normally fuel at Southern Cross, Norseman, Caiguna and Eucla.

[Wombat]

The figures for fuel below are what I used with swag and highway blades as well as a higher screen on the 1100 and Hoffy used less for the Ballarat run. We will update costs in August with the Border run back to Perth so members have some figures to plan with and it gives me an excuse to do the run. Remember people  this is only a guide

Ballarat 2014 National Meeting                  
Place                                              kilometres      Litres      Kms/L      RON   $/Litre   Cost
Gosnells                  
Mundaring                                         77               
Southern Cross                                   338              21.5      15.72                1.759   37.8185
Norseman                                           354              21.08      16.79          91      1.845   38.89
Caiguna                                                   374              25              14.96          98      2.23   55.75
Madura Pass                                          157              9.72      16.15          95       2.09   20.32
Eucla Pass                                          186            13.35      13.93          98      1.751   23.38
Nullarbor                                                  197            14.34      13.74          91      2.159   30.96
Ceduna                                                  299            19.67      15.20          98      1.839   36.17313
Kimba                                                  316            19.52      16.19           98      1.789   34.92
Port Augusta                                          156            10.07      15.49          98      1.739   17.51173
Mount Barker                                          343            18.9      18.15          98      1.625   30.7125
Nhill                                                          324            16.78      19.31          95      1.759   29.51602
Ballarat                                                   284            15.54      18.92          98      1.619   28.75344
Mount Gambier                                          272            14.45      18.82          95      1.709   24.69505
Murray Bridge                                          384            20.41      18.81          98        1.569   32.02
Clare                                                  206.7   12.36      16.72          98      1.689   20.87604
Kimba                                                   156            8.87      17.59           98       1.759   15.60233
Ceduna                                                   315           19.05      16.54           98       1.669   31.79445
Nullarbor                                                   297           18.86       15.75           91        2.159   40.71874
Eucla Pass                                           200            11.89       16.82            95       1.751   20.81939
Caiguna                                                   341            19.05       17.90        98        2.23   42.4815
Norseman                                            374     23.17       16.14           98        1.849   42.84133
Southern Cross                                       358           22.03       16.25           95        1.759   38.75077
Gosnells                                                   377          23.3               16.18            95      
 

Cheers to all     

Dont blame me but it all lines up on the preview                 

[alans1100]

Wombat, why all the 95 and 98 as 91 is available at all those stops at least in SA and WA

[Wombat]

Wombat, why all the 95 and 98 as 91 is available at all those stops at least in SA and WA

Alan
I like my bike and vehicles to be clean inside so 95 minimum for me. 
just a personal choice and I usually get better fuel economy.
Regards Bill

[Mitch]

Here is a simple breakdown of my costs to attend the 2015 Toowoomba Rally.
 Home is about 70 klm South of Perth
 Total time away from home  17 days of which 4 days were spent staying with a mate in Pt Augusta. (no cost)
 Total time travelling and at rally 13 days
 Total klm travelled  Home - Toowoomba - Home  9,771 Klm (included a few extra klm Sight Seeing)
 Cost of Fuel   (95 or 98 RON only)   $825.61       Yamaha ST1200  averaged 18.2 klm/lt
 Cost of Accom and Meals                $1478.40       Staying at Motels and eating well (no camping) Includes 4 nights in Toowoomba Motel ($420)

 Costs of Motels across the Nullabor
 Ceduna- East West Motel  $85
 Madura- $110
 Caiguna- $105

 Fuel across the Nullabor.
 Go the extra 13klm from Border Village to Eucla (has 91 and 98 RON) for saving on fuel
 Mundrabilla - has no Premium Fuel
 Yalata - no longer exists as a Roadhouse
 Nullabor  Roadhouse - has signs on pumps requiring you to hand over your licence before they will turn on the pump.
                                    Try the pump first as they usually allow bikes to fill up.

 Hope this will help some of you plan for your Perth Odyssey next year
                             

 

[Pezzz]

Just kicking this thread up to remind people to keep in mind Marcus's question earlier this year. Saaz or Lionel, if I can get your stats at BV then add them to ours we should have a reasonable estimate.
Are you guys stopping at hard accommodation or tenting it across?

[saaz]

Just kicking this thread up to remind people to keep in mind Marcus's question earlier this year. Saaz or Lionel, if I can get your stats at BV then add them to ours we should have a reasonable estimate.
Are you guys stopping at hard accommodation or tenting it across?

I am doing hard accommodation. Lionel will be driving back with the caravan from near Bunbury, and was going to note prices

[Me_3]

If you have an iphone, there is an app called "Fuel Map" which can help work out approximate fuel stops, and prices. I've been using it to work which way/what stops I will be making on the way over..

[spanner]

this is all great info and I love it.

[alans1100]

If you have an iphone, there is an app called "Fuel Map" which can help work out approximate fuel stops, and prices. I've been using it to work which way/what stops I will be making on the way over..

Same for Android phones though. I have my stops in memory from all the times in the past when I've gone west on the bike.

Avoid Nullarbor Road as that used to be the most expensive. Penong Truckstop (70 K west of Ceduna) is usually cheaper than Ceduna. So for me it's Port Augusta, Wudinna, Penong or Nundroo, then Mundrabilla and with spare 20 litres of fuel next stop is Norseman.

On The Run have taken over the BP roadhouse at Ceduna and put Maccas or Hungry Jacks in which opened in about April 2015.
Mobile at Kimba went to (independent) Shell and new owners installed 24 hour card fuel.

[spanner]

Alan,

the trip you do is that from Adelaide or do you go further to Melb or syd?

i will be coming from Townsville and really dont know which way to go ..

i was going to go NT then down the west coast and then back the bottom way but really have no idea. 

[saaz]

I am doing the Border Run and then going up the west coast, Darwin, Cairns etc so I can give you an idea when I get back. Just let me know what sort of things you want to know about.  Shortest way is inland Queensland then across to Perth, 1000km more around the west coast and down roughly. Going all the way around and back from Canberra is roughly 15,000kms, but that is not hugging the coast all the way around Victoria and NSW.

Alan,

the trip you do is that from Adelaide or do you go further to Melb or syd?

i will be coming from Townsville and really dont know which way to go ..

i was going to go NT then down the west coast and then back the bottom way but really have no idea. 

[alans1100]

Alan,

the trip you do is that from Adelaide or do you go further to Melb or syd?

i will be coming from Townsville and really dont know which way to go ..

i was going to go NT then down the west coast and then back the bottom way but really have no idea.

I live in Peterborough SA which I've put as waypoint on a route from Townsville to Midland (Perth) in this map link https://goo.gl/maps/DfCcu I don't really get that adventurous on longer rides and tend to travel the more direct route but will vary the return route if at all possible.

and a possible northern route https://goo.gl/maps/ckFhh for Rally time (March) of the year you will need to take into account the cyclone season (until end of April) across the top of the country and around to Carnarvon.

[Lionel]

Here are some recent fuel prices that may be of interest to those travelling to the Border.

July 2015

Port Augusta
Shell, 34 Eyre Highway
91 $1.40

No details between Port Augusta and Ceduna on the Eyre Highway as we travelled west via Port Lincoln.

Ceduna
BP 91 $1.35; 98 $1.53
Mogas 91 $1.40; Premium Green $1.57

Penong
Caltex 91 $1.37; 98 $1.55

Nundroo
Liberty 91 $1.45

Nullabor
Mobil 91 $1.88; 98 $1.95

Border Village
BP 91 $1.89; 95 $2.03 (did not see a 98 pump)

Eucla (16 kms west of Border Village)
91 $1.78; 98 $1.84

16 July 2015

Mundrabilla
91 $1.78

Madura
91 $1.86; 98 $2.01 (pump not in use)

Cocklebiddy
91 $1.92; 98 $2.11

Caiguna
BP 91 $1.89; 98 $2.05

30 July 2015
Balladonia
BP 91 $1.90; 98 $2.06
(Dead camel on the fog line approx 40 kms west of Balladonia, on the east bound side)

17 Jul 2015

Norseman
BP 91 $1.58; 98 $1.74
Caltex 91 $1.46; 95 $1.56


20 July 2015

Southern Cross (NAB and Westpac ATM in town)
BP 91 $1.43; 98 $1.61
Caltex 91 $1.43; 98 $1.59

Bodallin
Liberty 91 $1.37; 98 $1.46

Merredin
Shell 91 $1.42
BP 91 $1.43

Kellerberrin
Liberty 91 $1.40; 98 $1.50

Northam
Caltex 91 $1.34; 98 $1.38