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Title: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Marcus on July 14, 2014, 04:07:52 PM
It was a normal day, a day unlike any other, birds chirped in the tree branches, the sounds of children in the near by playground rang around the surrounding houses.

But this day was not like any other...as this day 30 of April 2014 was the day a hapless mailman started an epic journey. For little did he know, that he would soon deliver to the mail depot, a seat... Some say the Devil himself built this seat over the course of 20 lifetimes, it has been described as the one thing to turn back time. By turning Men into Babies.

A nervous wait was had for the next few weeks, as a confirmation email arrived stating the "Devil Seat" had made the Perilous journey across the oceans.

June 12! the email exclaimed, this shall be the day the exorcism shall commence...

Two nervous weeks later, like a proud father f a newborn, I receive yet another email.

I thanks the heavens above that the Devil Seat was finally subdued and waited for it prompt return.

Upon unwrapping the box. I noticed this seat, this "Devil seat" has undergone a transformation, a metamorphosis of epicness and has come out the other side not as the Devils Seat but as the stunningly beautiful object touched be an angel all day long... a Russell Day long .

Too long; Didn't read: I got a new seat today, pretty happy with it

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/marcusstringer/photo1_zps8fc75b4a.jpg)

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/marcusstringer/photo2_zps3a23a478.jpg)

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/marcusstringer/538B6750-CE85-4EFF-82A9-B9E7AC8034EF_zps3ltexl7c.jpg)

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/marcusstringer/30B27A6E-13AC-4B6D-BD46-AA46BA848126_zpscwe7rgei.jpg)

Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: Brock on July 14, 2014, 04:18:53 PM
Ooooh

a bum bucket...   o:) :like
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: Wild Rose on July 14, 2014, 04:53:02 PM
 :thumb :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbs :hatwave :hatwave :runyay :runyay WOW: WOW:
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: ST2UP on July 14, 2014, 05:13:47 PM
Schweeet !!!! Now take the rest of the week off and go play mate  :runyay


..........we will show you the secret Russell Day Long seat handshake  ;-*  :crackup



 :beer


Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: Biggles on July 14, 2014, 06:41:45 PM

..........we will show you the secret Russell Day Long seat handshake  ;-*  :crackup


It would be a butt butt, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: Skip on July 14, 2014, 07:36:47 PM
 :well  I don't CARE what it LOOKS like Marcus, I want to hear what it FEELS like after 2 hours + in the saddle. Get on with it man. A ride report is what I want.  :cuss 
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: Skip on July 14, 2014, 07:38:04 PM
Pretty please.  o:)
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: ST2UP on July 14, 2014, 08:10:45 PM
Yeah they are a little more expensive than most seats.....and as good as some of the aftermarket seats are they are manufacture to a spec, Russell is made to suit your rump and the rump of your pillion.......taking into account your height, weight, sitting position, bar location and the side you dress on......ok maybe not the last one....single best mod we have done to the bike.....by far.

Seriously unless the coffee shop we are passing has an exceptional reputation when we out travelling on a solo mission we start with a full tank of fuel and stop when we need fuel......the seat is that good  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: Marcus on July 14, 2014, 08:19:30 PM
:well  I don't CARE what it LOOKS like Marcus, I want to hear what it FEELS like after 2 hours + in the saddle. Get on with it man. A ride report is what I want.  :cuss 
Well do...once it warms up a bit haha
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: Skip on July 14, 2014, 08:45:11 PM
Yeah they are a little more expensive than most seats.....and as good as some of the aftermarket seats are they are manufacture to a spec, Russell is made to suit your rump and the rump of your pillion.......taking into account your height, weight, sitting position, bar location and the side you dress on......ok maybe not the last one....single best mod we have done to the bike.....by far.

Seriously unless the coffee shop we are passing has an exceptional reputation when we out travelling on a solo mission we start with a full tank of fuel and stop when we need fuel......the seat is that good  :thumbsup

That's a good wrap. Thanks Chris.  What's the freight cost to and from the states? Marcus. Feel free to give your experience.
Do you have to send photo's of how you sit on the bike etc?
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: Marcus on July 14, 2014, 09:09:48 PM
What's the freight cost to and from the states? Marcus. Feel free to give your experience.
Do you have to send photo's of how you sit on the bike etc?

To ship to the States was $135
This is what they charged my credit card for the seat plus postage I'm guessing.
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/marcusstringer/ScreenShot2014-07-14at85711pm_zps3d66a230.png)
The shipping form says $95.04 for them to send it back

Do you have to send photo's of how you sit on the bike etc?

About this may
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/marcusstringer/photo_zps40050394.jpg)


Plus Height, weight, inseam
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: Skip on July 15, 2014, 05:38:54 PM
Thanks Marcus. Certainly not cheap, but by all reports, probably the best of the aftermarket offerings. Look forward to your ride report. (in November when it's warmer.  :grin)
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: Marcus on July 16, 2014, 10:56:32 AM
With all those photos of sitting possitions , do you think they just make the same seats over and over again ?
Will be interesting to line up the two side by side  :like

Agreed, we'll do that at the next rally
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: ST2UP on July 16, 2014, 11:27:58 AM
Why wait until NatRally  :nahnah


Marcus & Tania:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q717/ST2UP/4b85605f42806fbeb9cf5e7d94595aa5_zps686f0abe.jpg)



ST2UP & Pockey:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q717/ST2UP/8c9140d31400ddf27af5ea7c7420d098_zps442bedd2.jpg)


I can see the difference in both seats...... ;-*
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: Marcus on July 16, 2014, 11:31:29 AM
can see the difference in both seats...... ;-*
You can???
Post a photo at the same angle
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: ST2UP on July 16, 2014, 11:47:28 AM
You post a pic  :Stirpot


Get one from above at same mine.......based on the above pics I can see 3 differences  :eek
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: Marcus on July 16, 2014, 11:49:19 AM
Touche
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: ST2UP on July 16, 2014, 12:40:23 PM
We will have a Russell SEAT comparo up here soonish.........


We have 3 members grabbing pics with measuring sticks in situ   :thumbsup


 :beer


Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: Williamson on July 16, 2014, 01:20:16 PM
We will have a Russell SEAT comparo up here soonish.........

We have 3 members grabbing pics with measuring sticks in situ   :thumbsup

 :beer

Better make that four, I'll post some pics of the seat I purchased from Terence (new member, no posts as yet) in SA.
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: Marcus on July 16, 2014, 01:57:24 PM
Side by side of mine and Chris's his is on the left mine the right, I got the same angle and magnification.
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/marcusstringer/Same_zps8ee7980a.jpg)

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/marcusstringer/photo4_zps9db3ee6d.jpg)

This is across the widest point on the riders seat
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/marcusstringer/photo2_zps237c2eb9.jpg)
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: Biggles on July 16, 2014, 02:25:35 PM
Hmmm. Obvious variation in butt sizes there.
No comment on which or what, though!!     :whistle     :-(((
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: ST2UP on July 16, 2014, 02:40:32 PM
Nice one Marcus  ++

I can see a total of 8 differences between the pair of seats, and thats without the benifit of the lie detector (tape measure)  :eek  :eek

The difference between the front of the pillions seats is quite dramatic......


 :beer
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Abe on July 16, 2014, 05:49:00 PM
Overall, riders seat only done

(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q791/vegapup/IMG_13621_zpse8f00f9d.jpg) (http://s1359.photobucket.com/user/vegapup/media/IMG_13621_zpse8f00f9d.jpg.html)

Across the seat at the "wings" stitching to stitching.

(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q791/vegapup/IMG_13631_zpsd7cb44f5.jpg) (http://s1359.photobucket.com/user/vegapup/media/IMG_13631_zpsd7cb44f5.jpg.html)

Rise at the rear of seat.

(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q791/vegapup/IMG_13651_zps0fad68b8.jpg) (http://s1359.photobucket.com/user/vegapup/media/IMG_13651_zps0fad68b8.jpg.html)

Front to rear

(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q791/vegapup/IMG_13671_zps30e9b8c8.jpg) (http://s1359.photobucket.com/user/vegapup/media/IMG_13671_zps30e9b8c8.jpg.html)

Bike is apart doing maintenance and farkles, so no photo's on bike, but you get the drift.
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Down Under on July 16, 2014, 09:50:31 PM

You've gone straight to the top shelf with those seats Marcus!  :thumb

Looking forward to your ride report and I hope you can confirm that all those rave reviews from US owners regarding the legendary comfort of the RDL seat is true!

Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Couch on July 16, 2014, 10:37:41 PM
Marcus, did you find it altered the difference in height from the ground when stationary, and if so, which way...up or down??
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: ST2UP on July 16, 2014, 10:59:55 PM
Here ya go.....width of riders seat across widest point.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q717/ST2UP/3901b918a8ad13e9a9dc67a75692e76d_zps2c20058e.jpg)


Rise at rear of seat


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q717/ST2UP/9bd1a421b8a6336ec9b0c54e4311e5c3_zps7325ffe9.jpg)
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell
Post by: ST2UP on July 16, 2014, 11:14:16 PM
With all those photos of sitting possitions , do you think they just make the same seats over and over again ?
Will be interesting to line up the two side by side  :like




Well I think we can put this great question to bed......


Just using the widest measurement across the riders seat:

Abe = 41.5cm

Marcus = 42.5cm

ST2UP = 46.5cm


So it's official  :hatwave I have the biggest Russell  :whistle and the widest A$$  :p


Come to think of it  :think1 I may have ticked the Bench seat option on the factory order form.


 :beer
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Marcus on July 17, 2014, 08:20:45 AM
Marcus, did you find it altered the difference in height from the ground when stationary, and if so, which way...up or down??

Down if anything because I rode with the airhawke, so it's now about 1.5 inches lower.

But you do need to take into consideration the "wings" which restrict your legs backwards movement a bit.

But I won't know more until I ride it
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Streak on July 20, 2014, 01:18:01 PM
I am just waiting on tax, and I am doing the single seat modification to my ST1300, Teela pretty much does not pillion with me any more so I am just going to do my seat 😄
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Marcus on July 31, 2014, 02:41:10 PM
Quick update, there was a break in weather so I went for quick ride the other night for about 1/2 hour:
Initial reports, after about 3 minutes wiggling I found a good position
( the problem is also getting used to being lower as the airhawke added another 1.5-2 inches )

No discomfort at all after settling in.

The wings on the seat DO stop my legs going down on a straight angle when stoping, so I found myself sliding forward a bit, I think this will change after more riding.

I will give a more indepth report once the weather improves and I get out for longer.

So far I give it 8.5/10 (where stock was 1/10, stock + airhawke was a 5/10)
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: ST2UP on July 31, 2014, 03:15:13 PM
That need to wiggle forward is just what I also found when stopping when breaking in seat, completely gone now for all but an up hill stop.......very nice to not have your boy bits tank slapp'in isn't it  ;-*


 :beer
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Williamson on July 31, 2014, 07:54:20 PM
Quick update, there was a break in weather so I went for quick ride the other night for about 1/2 hour:
Initial reports, after about 3 minutes wiggling I found a good position
( the problem is also getting used to being lower as the airhawke added another 1.5-2 inches )

No discomfort at all after settling in.

The wings on the seat DO stop my legs going down on a straight angle when stoping, so I found myself sliding forward a bit, I think this will change after more riding.

I will give a more indepth report once the weather improves and I get out for longer.

So far I give it 8.5/10 (where stock was 1/10, stock + airhawke was a 5/10)

Saddle ratings (IMHO)

CB1300 Standard:  1/10

ST1300 Standard:  5/10

ST1300 plus AirHawk: 8/10

Russel Day Long: 11/10

Pillion, Mrs W (Helen) likes it too.  The little bit of moulding and extra contouring prevents any forward sliding when braking heavily.

Oh, and I like that bit too.

That need to wiggle forward is just what I also found when stopping when breaking in seat, completely gone now for all but an up hill stop.......very nice to not have your boy bits tank slapp'in isn't it  ;-*

 :beer

Ah, the wrussell wriggle, it took me a day to get use to it.

Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Gadget on July 31, 2014, 10:18:46 PM
And the future for the Airhawk is?????  Dibs
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Marcus on October 25, 2014, 05:33:28 PM
Ok. So 1000 km done. The seat is amazing. Best seat ever. And I'm not just saying that because I spent the money. It's totally the best seat. I've done all day on it and only stopped because the sun went down.  Wife on the back hasn't complained once.

If you're on the fence. I can talk this seat up enough. It's that good
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Gadget on October 25, 2014, 05:43:28 PM
Glad your enjoying it.  Got my own Air-hawk so I'm happy for now.
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: ST2UP on October 25, 2014, 06:22:09 PM
Never doubted for a minute Marcus you wouldn't be happy ;)


Sent from my iPhone using this here Tappin' and a Talkin' thing;)

Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Couch on October 26, 2014, 10:28:27 AM
I met up with Marcus and his lovely lady (and Carsten) yesterday here at Nubeena on the beautiful Tasman Peninsula and had a chance to have a squiz at his new Russell Day Long seat, and I have to say.......it looks the goods!!! :thumbsup
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: West Aussie Glen on October 26, 2014, 11:43:50 AM
The RD Pillion seat seems to be over the top of the pannier release levers, does this cause a problem?
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: ST2UP on October 26, 2014, 03:50:11 PM
The RD Pillion seat seems to be over the top of the pannier release levers, does this cause a problem?


No issue at all Glen..... The latch does touch the seat on Pockey's, but doesn't impede its function at all. But the width and size of the seat does depend on the width of the......I'm mean the size of the.......well the surface area of the pillions arrrr  :whistle I have to go now my mums calling me for lunch  o:)


Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Shaun on October 26, 2014, 04:11:35 PM
Death wish.
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Gadget on October 26, 2014, 04:28:04 PM


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The RD Pillion seat seems to be over the top of the pannier release levers, does this cause a problem?


No issue at all Glen..... The latch does touch the seat on Pockey's, but doesn't impede its function at all. But the width and size of the seat does depend on the width of the......I'm mean the size of the.......well the surface area of the pillions arrrr  :whistle I have to go now my mums calling me for lunch  o:)



 :crackup :rofl
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Skip on October 26, 2014, 05:49:58 PM
I'm assuming, that because the RDL is built on the OEM base, you still have the 3 adjustment heights. Correct or not?
Relate to Marcus' comment that he had to get used to a lower seat height. I currently have a lambs wool and Air Hawk. I've bent the rear locating lugs to level the seat up a bit so the front sits in the middle setting with the rear locating in the lowest setting. If fitting an RDL, I imagine i could still fit it at the highest setting? 
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Williamson on October 26, 2014, 06:19:50 PM
The RD Pillion seat seems to be over the top of the pannier release levers, does this cause a problem?

The Russell Day Long pillion seat on my ST1300 does overhang the pannier release levers.  I need to be careful inserting and turning the key, and then lifting the levers.  If I did this on a daily basis, I'm sure I would end up accidentally damaging the seat.

But it does not worry me too much as I don't store anything I need to get too under the seat and the seat height / position is set-up for me (lowest position).

The problem with inserting and turning is because of the key length.  I'm sure a shorter key would be handy.  I keep meaning to get a shorter key (just for the release levers) cut. 

Anyone know if this is possible?

Re. seat height, even on it's lowest setting (same for the original Honda seat), it's still a bit too high for me to clearly see the indicators lights on the instrument panel.

Anyone else have this problem?

Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Marcus on October 26, 2014, 06:22:44 PM
They use your OEM seat so everything fits the same. I just had to get used to the missing height the airhawke gave me as I had mine inflated a lot
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Biggles on October 26, 2014, 06:54:32 PM

The problem with inserting and turning is because of the key length.  I'm sure a shorter key would be handy.  I keep meaning to get a shorter key (just for the release levers) cut. 

Anyone know if this is possible?



Search "key" on the forum.  I've had a few cut for various applications.  Apparently the Honda Legend key blank fits.

A search on eBay for "Honda ST1300 key blanks" will turn up heaps of cheapies.

Any Mr Minit can cut it.
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Marcus on October 26, 2014, 09:13:16 PM
The key is fine on mine. As each seat is different. It's a lucky dip
Title: Re: Me and my mate Russell (Seat)
Post by: Biggles on October 26, 2014, 09:24:55 PM
The key is fine on mine. As each seat is different. It's a lucky dip

Possibly a function of the width of one's butt?